I have a bridge to sell to anybody who thinks they’re going to see any of that money back. There simply won’t be an Ukraine left at the end of all this, and obviously Russia isn’t going to honor any of these debts. This money is gone forever. However, lots of people are currently getting rich from this since the whole thing is basically a giant money laundering scheme.
I was just about to ask about this. lol. What if there is no more Ukraine? But here’s the thing, I don’t think Russia will ever take ALL of Ukraine. They stated before they don’t want it all. Just these two areas that have proclaimed themselves Russian and to eliminate the Ukrainian Fascists. The US is banking on this. So they will just pilfer what’s left. Although it would be pretty great for the US to get burned even harder than it already is.
I doubt Russia would take all of Ukraine as well. Western Ukraine has very little value for Russia because most of the industry and agricultural land is in the east. What’s most likely is that Russia will leave a rump western Ukraine which the west is going to have to keep pouring money into in order for it not to collapse and result in a massive refugee crisis in Europe.
Not to mention (as has been discussed in other threads here) Galicia-Volhynia at least, is the heartland of Banderism and general ultra-nationalist sentiment. It wouldn’t just be a bad idea to try and hold it from an economic point of view, but in terms of the local sentiment there being nothing but russophobia+nazi worship.
Now I can’t remember where I read or heard this, but the Americans offered Russia some sort of “peace deal” in which LPR and DPR would be recognized as part of Russia if they also took on some of the lend-lease debt incurred by Ukraine. The tone deaf audacity!
With the context of lend-lease it’s also all the more clear why private capital firms like Blackrock are all up in Ukraine’s business. Not that capitalist ghouls need an excuse to rape and pillage an entire nation.
A Swedish paper printed an article about this, but US obviously denied it. At this point Russia doesn’t really have much of an incentive to make any deals with US. Now the only sensible thing to do is to break Ukrainian military once and for all then ensure it stays demilitarized going forward.
I have a bridge to sell to anybody who thinks they’re going to see any of that money back. There simply won’t be an Ukraine left at the end of all this, and obviously Russia isn’t going to honor any of these debts. This money is gone forever. However, lots of people are currently getting rich from this since the whole thing is basically a giant money laundering scheme.
I was just about to ask about this. lol. What if there is no more Ukraine? But here’s the thing, I don’t think Russia will ever take ALL of Ukraine. They stated before they don’t want it all. Just these two areas that have proclaimed themselves Russian and to eliminate the Ukrainian Fascists. The US is banking on this. So they will just pilfer what’s left. Although it would be pretty great for the US to get burned even harder than it already is.
Something something the cost of empire.
I doubt Russia would take all of Ukraine as well. Western Ukraine has very little value for Russia because most of the industry and agricultural land is in the east. What’s most likely is that Russia will leave a rump western Ukraine which the west is going to have to keep pouring money into in order for it not to collapse and result in a massive refugee crisis in Europe.
Not to mention (as has been discussed in other threads here) Galicia-Volhynia at least, is the heartland of Banderism and general ultra-nationalist sentiment. It wouldn’t just be a bad idea to try and hold it from an economic point of view, but in terms of the local sentiment there being nothing but russophobia+nazi worship.
Exactly, much better to offload that nightmare onto the Poles.
Now I can’t remember where I read or heard this, but the Americans offered Russia some sort of “peace deal” in which LPR and DPR would be recognized as part of Russia if they also took on some of the lend-lease debt incurred by Ukraine. The tone deaf audacity!
With the context of lend-lease it’s also all the more clear why private capital firms like Blackrock are all up in Ukraine’s business. Not that capitalist ghouls need an excuse to rape and pillage an entire nation.
A Swedish paper printed an article about this, but US obviously denied it. At this point Russia doesn’t really have much of an incentive to make any deals with US. Now the only sensible thing to do is to break Ukrainian military once and for all then ensure it stays demilitarized going forward.