• @VanchoPilla
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    31 year ago

    if needed police will just find your mullvad key one way or another

    How could they do this?

    • @CriticalResist8A
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      31 year ago

      Seizing your computer or raiding your home if you wrote it down.

      Uploading spyware on your computer so that they can just connect to your mullvad account and check the key themselves.

      Find out you use mullvad and intercept your correspondance until they find your payment, since the key needs to be reminded to mullvad.

      Or just ask them to crack the code for them. Not entirely sure how this key works, if it’s regenerated everytime and if it’s encrypted or there’s an algorithm to it.

      Just beat you until you tell them lol

      They’re the police, they can do whatever they want.

      • Arsen6331 ☭
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        1 year ago

        Mullvad uses Wireguard and OpenVPN.

        They operate the same way as most modern encryption schemes. There is a private and public key on your device and on the server. You send your public key, the server sends its public key, and then they both use an algorithm, either Diffie-Hellman or Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman depending on what type of key you use, into which they input their private key and the other device’s public key. The output of the algorithm will be the same for both despite the fact that they have different inputs. Then, they will just use the output normally as a regular key.

        Wireguard also has ephemeral keys that change constantly, so even if police get your keys and those of the specific server you connected to (they’d need both in order to derive the shared secret), they will not get your data (if you’re using Wireguard). Also, it uses Curve25519, which is a non-NIST elliptic curve (NIST is the US government’s standards agency. Who knows if their elliptic curves have backdoors)

      • @VanchoPilla
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        31 year ago

        A lot of those would happen after clandestinely monitoring your internet traffic. Spyware yes, but if they have spyware on your computer then they might as well monitor what you do on the computer side. I feel if one is going to use a VPN, Mullvad provides the most privacy features. If the police is spending all this time and resources to check your internet traffic, that means you fucked up somewhere else and they have you for something already. In that case, the VPN wasn’t the problem.

        For example, you can say “police can come into your house anyway, why not leave the door open?” If the door is open, they can just walk in. But if it’s locked, they need a warrant. And again, if they have a warrant, that means you fucked up somewhere else.