Remember when you had the 2nd International, huge marxist parties like the SPD in Germany, all saying they would never support an imperialist war and were true marxists, and then when WW1 began they all sold out and supported the war? Good times. Very few, like Vladimir Lenin, Rosa Luxembourg and Eugene Debs, remained true to marxism and opposed the war. Well i think a similar situation is happening now with the SMO in Ukraine.
From “democratic socialists” to MLs to maoists to anarchists, they all said they would never support US imperialism, they would never support a new Iraq WMD lie. And yet, when the SMO began and the west started demonizing Russia and beating the drums of war, most of these ostensibly “leftist” figures, especially western figures, sold out and supported the antirussian histeria. From BreadTube to YoungTurks to maoists like Marxist Paul to anarchists, they all sold out. Even some principled MLs like Second Thought and Hakim have shied away from condemning this war histeria and supporting Russia. I think this will be the collapse of the 2nd International of our era, the new divide between true antiimperialists and sellouts.
What are your thoughts?
I agree, it really shoes the “left’s” true colors.
Except for that one video Second Thought made (which was half relevant and started to peel away: that Putin’s crazy! Don’t blame him given his audience) or that Episode of the Deprogram with Alan McLeod talking about propaganda (Hakim says fuck everybody involved and they make fun of the media for showing every four pictures a Nazi symbol). Other than that they aren’t really talking about it, but I think it’s better we don’t lose some of our strongest MLs with the overwhelming majority if libs on “left” tube.
Now like Commie Wolf was saying they are more educational (I think a better word would be agitators) and I see other ML channels that are more news oriented (Multipolarista with Ben Norton and BreakthroughNews) or a less mainstream channel like Maupin’s (thanks for getting me to watch him by the way) condemn the US and NATO’s imperialism and say Russia is justified.
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I know especially after their episode with Ben, but that’s the whole point of the podcast, and there’s enough episodes in stock for socdems/DemSocs to adapt.