• @SaddamHussein24OP
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    They dont even realize that, even if Russia somehow thought they would take all Ukraine in 2 weeks and failed, they are still winning. Even if it takes them 3 years, if they achieve it theyll have won. These muppets think if you dont achieve every part of the plan exactly as was planned you automatically lost. Overdosing on copium.

    • @aworldtowin@lemmy.ml
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      We should be more hesitant to outright declare that as a win this early in everything playing out. It’s very possible this was a trap set by the US to bog down Russia and have an opportunity to expand NATO while Russia is busy. They would also love to make a move on China while Russia is bogged down in Ukraine, media is really trying to get the people along with war over Taiwan.

      Not trying to say Russia is losing here, just that we should step back and realize this could play out in 100000 different ways and many are not good for Russia long term. In 5 years things will be much clearer but until then we should speak with less certainty.

      • @SaddamHussein24OP
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        I personally thing that, as things are now, they are clearly winning, and if nothing changes, theyll probably win. Russia gains territory every day. They now control almost 1/4 of Ukraine, with all of Kherson, half of Zaporizhya, half of Donetsk, almost all of Lugansk and 1/3 of Kharkov regions. And all of this despite unprecedented western weapons supplies to Ukraine (more than 60 BILLION dollars) and Russia using minimal resources (only 200k troops). In the economic war, the victory has been crushing. The ruble is at its highest in years, despite Russia being now the most sanctioned country in the world. While in Russia inflation is staying low, in the west its skyrocketing. In Russia supermarkets are stocked, in the US there isnt even milk. I think Russia is clearly winning, and i honestly expected its economy to suffer much more. I definetely agree with you on Taiwan tho, the US may start shit there too.

        • @cfgaussian
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          The 200k number by the way is the total including the DPR and LPR militias. On Russia’s part it’s probably more like 100k. I also wonder how long it will be until we see Kherson and Zaporozhie regions form their own militias to start defending their own borders and free up a few more Russian forces.

        • @PolandIsAStateOfMind
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          The ruble is at its highest in years, despite Russia being now the most sanctioned country in the world. While in Russia inflation is staying low, in the west its skyrocketing.

          This is even more important point that it is on the face value. It clearly shows the western global finance system for what it really is: a racket.

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      • @cfgaussian
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        It’s not Russia who is “bogged down” in Ukraine, it’s the collective west. The US wanted to pivot to Asia after pulling out of Afghanistan and now they are stuck having to pour in an ungodly amount of resources into the black hole that is Ukraine. To hijack and reverse their usual LOTR metaphors, we can say the Eye of Sauron is fixed on Eastern Europe at the moment and China has mostly free reign in the Pacific, as such they have been busy forging ties and security pacts with a bunch of island nations, they’ve been conducting exercises and they have been given more time to prepare. If the US does try to launch its bid with regards to Taiwan they will be essentially in a two front proxy war. They already had to delay several weapons shipments to Taiwan because it all went to Ukraine.

        In addition, it’s the west that is in deep economic trouble at the moment and only getting worse. They don’t seem to have a solution to the inflation problem and the Europeans are approaching a crisis with regards to oil and gas prices, as well as food prices and shortages. This means either the US loses some of its most important allies or it is forced to prop them up with even more support out of an already struggling US economy that has not recovered from the botched Covid response.

        The whole Ukraine gambit has backfired totally on Washington, it has not worked at all the way they hoped it would. They thought they could quickly collapse or bring to heel Russia with shock and awe sanctions, or at least involve them in a politically extremely unpopular and costly war that they would not make any progress in (relying on the heavy fortifications in the Donbass holding them off).

        Instead the Russian government is more popular and stable than ever, their economy is recovering and developing even more self-reliance, and they have already broken through Ukraine’s defenses while taking minimal casualties compared to the other side’s catastrophic losses. They also managed to disable the ability of Ukraine to mount any sort of coherent offensive action with their initial blitz in the first week or so.

        This has turned into both and economic and kinetic war of attrition that the west is losing badly, and China has been given a ton of breathing room.

        • KiG V2
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          82 years ago

          “Hesitantly optimistic” is my final take

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