But the bourgeois are free and the proletariat are many. If hypothetically everyone became conscious of class war and their place in it there is only one winner.
What I don’t agree with is that the person is saying that if everyone was class conscious then revolution wouldn’t be necessary. The bourgeoisie are class conscious and they are not willing to give up their class position peacefully. Therefore, that point doesn’t hold.
How does one become rich? Off the labor of others. If people were all class conscious they could simply stop the exploitation and work together for each other, enjoying the fruits of their labor and leaving the bougies to fend for themselves.
Merely having class consciousness would not change the fact that the capitalist class owns the means of production, and the working class needs wages to subsist.
I would argue we only need wages to subsist because there are so few of us with class conciousness. If everyone had it we could simply stop using money, and like grocery store workers, and farmers, and truck drivers just keep doing their jobs, but give the food out for free to people, and everyone could just stop paying rent, etc. Just stop participating in the capitalist system because there would be so few people left that would try to punish you for it. Thats why “everyone” being class conscious is a bit silly because its not a realistic thing to just happen overnight, and if it did then it would be like everyone suddenly agreed to overthrow the rich all at once. There wouldnt be a need for a struggle at that point really.
no need for a revolution as in like we wouldn’t need to bother since everyone would just agree that ya we should do socialism
This is not true because the bourgeoisie are class conscious and that helps them fool the proletariat who are not class conscious
But the bourgeois are free and the proletariat are many. If hypothetically everyone became conscious of class war and their place in it there is only one winner.
What I don’t agree with is that the person is saying that if everyone was class conscious then revolution wouldn’t be necessary. The bourgeoisie are class conscious and they are not willing to give up their class position peacefully. Therefore, that point doesn’t hold.
How does one become rich? Off the labor of others. If people were all class conscious they could simply stop the exploitation and work together for each other, enjoying the fruits of their labor and leaving the bougies to fend for themselves.
Yes thats exactly what i was trying to get across. Thank you for putting it in such easy to digest language comrade.
Makes sense. There would be revolution but the struggle wouldn’t be as intense I suppose.
the bourgeoise do not fight their own battles tho. They would have nobody left to give orders to. So how would they wage war.
we out number them by a lot lol
Merely having class consciousness would not change the fact that the capitalist class owns the means of production, and the working class needs wages to subsist.
I would argue we only need wages to subsist because there are so few of us with class conciousness. If everyone had it we could simply stop using money, and like grocery store workers, and farmers, and truck drivers just keep doing their jobs, but give the food out for free to people, and everyone could just stop paying rent, etc. Just stop participating in the capitalist system because there would be so few people left that would try to punish you for it. Thats why “everyone” being class conscious is a bit silly because its not a realistic thing to just happen overnight, and if it did then it would be like everyone suddenly agreed to overthrow the rich all at once. There wouldnt be a need for a struggle at that point really.