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      And how did they march into Paris ?

      Have the French already forgotten the Battle of Borodino? Have the Germans forgotten Kursk? Stalingrad?

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      Those nasty slavs would have never beaten the white race if mother nature didn’t pick a side. Thats why the wanna warm up the place. REVENGE!!

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    Damn, so this is the only way they’ve ever won their wars? Like throughout history? Meaning you could have easily predicted this and adapted your logistics to prepare for it? And you still failed to? Maybe you just fucking suck then idk

    Like all nazi excuses, if you think about it for 5 seconds it becomes way more embarrassing than just admitting you got rocked.

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    Man, they hate Russia at every point in history. No version of it will ever satisfy them; the only good Russia to them is one that is broken into pieces, no longer itself.

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    The winter helped the Germans. What bogged them down was the rainy season from the end of August to November, which turned the backroad, rural, dirt roads, airstrips, and villages to mud, and halted the German advance in its tracks.

    When the first frost and ground freeze came in November, the ground was once again hard enough for tanks and heavy equipment to move easily and the Germans restarted their offensive around Leningrad and Moscow; while making headway into Southern Russia.

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    They seemed to do a fine job defeating the Nazis.

    Even if that weren’t the case, why woud using the weather and the environment not be considered a part of military strategy? Do they still subscribe to “Line up and shoot at each other” military doctrine?

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    Let’s assume that this is true. How fucking stupid are the Nazis that they got owned by “the Russian winter” a century after the French got owned the exact same way? Russia didn’t win any wars, it was just blessed with enemies too fucking stupid to know that Russia is cold in winter lmao.

    Also, Kursk and Bagration were two of the biggest German defeats in the war and neither happened in winter.

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    Last time I checked, there wasn’t an almost 4 year long winter in the time the Soviets were destroying the Nazis in the eastern front

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    I always found it strange how anticommunists are allowed to blame their military failures on the weather, but blaming said weather for a famine in a people’s republic is worse than Shoah denial.

    Anyway, while the Axis invasion of the U.S.S.R. is admittedly a subject that can take nearly dozens of hours of study, you’ll be hard pressed to find a historian who claims that the Red Army’s contribution to repelling the invaders was insignificant. Environmental factors (like field mice) contributed, yes, but it would be exaggerative to claim that they were decisive. The Axis devastated the U.S.S.R. so much that the Soviets had no choice but to fight for their very survival.

    One aspect of the resistance that I love reading about are the Jews who directly fought against their oppressors:

    A telling detail of this remarkable saga is that on January 31, 1943, at Stalingrad, General von Paulus, Commander of the German 6th Army, surrendered to Lt. Colonel Leonid Vinoukur, a Jew.20 […] A rich accounting of specific individuals appears in a detailed work by Reuben Ainsztein,22 where we learn, among others, that Matrosov’s legendary feat of blocking [an Axis] machine gun with his body to allow his comrades to advance was repeated by Yosif Bumagin in Breslau, Poland, and in the Battle of Moscow by Yakov Paderin, both Jews.23

    It’s a shame that most anticommunists would prefer to either ignore or trivialise this beautiful history. Oh well.