damn i wonder where russia got all that efficient manufacturing infrastructure
Ukraine should ideally have the same efficient manufacturing infrastructure but they didn’t have a Putin to stop their shock therapy
Most of postsocialist countries had one round of shock therapy, though with varying lenghts and intensify.
Ukraine had four.
They’re still undergoing one lol
Yeah, that’s the fourth one, since 2022-3 when the west started to openly loot them for war debts. Previous were 2014+, 2004+, 1991+
Well you could count them as one huge shock therapy, but there were some pauses and tries to assert some sovereignity before 2004 and 2014 before west couped them again, and the newest one is something of a new quality of thorough plunder rather than “just” the ordinary shock therapy.
Of course it was all the amazing and innovative entrepreneurs who got rich very quickly in the 90s, for no reason in particular.
We’re just watching the end of an RTS match where the player losing is hiding buildings around the map and building towers in hopes the winning player values their time enough to just quit
lol basically
UKRAINE IS ABOUT TO FLOAT THEIR CC
One of my earliest realizations about the logistics and economics of war was from playing Age of Empires II when I was younger, where the late Imperial Age is often decided by the player who has the better map control (control of resources on the map) and production buildings to maintain a constant military production that eventually overwhelms your opponent’s and tilts the course of the battle to your side.
It is ultimately a game about managing your economy.
I used to follow competitive AoE, and it is that, definitely, but lately the economy management strats have gotten so optimized that they’re just about 5 minutes of very precise timing and lightning fast apm, and then a lot of micro fighting. Seeing all the matches be the same for the first 10 minutes got pretty old for me.
US uses an infinite money cheat
The real question is is the Ukrainian government done with killing its population or can we do a little more war still
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Before I reply in earnest, please answer this question:
“What was the Euromaidan”
Euromaidan? What is that some sort of singing competition?
Open season for the next 40 minutes til the top of the hour!
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Couldn’t be the result of the US backing a right-wing coup because they didn’t like the outcome of an election. That would NEVER
HAPPEN 
an offensive war of conquest and oppression
Come back when George Bush sits in the Iraqi prison cell where he belongs.
It’s funny too because I imagine part of Putin’s calculus is “the most powerful country can get away with it, why can’t I?” and the US won’t set an example by holding their own people accountable, so more of these wars will happen because they’ll just point to the US’ conduct as acceptable
Reported for being a Russian bot, I hope the rubles were worth it
My sibling in Satan the ukkkranians have suspended elections, outlawed all opposition parties, and integrated Nazi terror militias into their military. Is that the “freedom” you support?
But that’s only temporary, they’re going to stop doing it once they win just like the US ended warrantless surveillance and stopped supplying military gear to it’s police and
If people fighting for their freedom against a totalitarian regime is your definition of unnecessary then maybe you should reevaluate your political opinions.
So you support Hamas, Hezbollah, and Ansar Allah? Based.
There are people who don’t?! Wild
Apparently? I thought they were made up
attempting to conquer Ukraine since 2014
lol
Vladimir Putin has been shelling Donbass civilians from inside Ukraine since then?
Vldimir
It’s spelled Voldemort!
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You have spent exactly zero effort and time learning about the situation.
Okay Victoria Nuland.
If I knew how to mix music I would make a song with her “Fuck the EU” played right before the drop
I love it when libs try and give history lessons to us. you don’t even know a quarter of what’s been going on since 2014
it’s also funny when I see a headline with Russia/Ukraine in it and an unbalanced upvote-to-comment ratio, it’s like a lib dunking siren
If people fighting for their freedom against a totalitarian regime is your definition of unnecessary then maybe you should reevaluate your political opinions.
Is the totalitarian regime the side with or without elections?
…and what does totalitarian actually mean?
Back when words had meaning, which is usually only for as long as the first book describing the word is published, ‘totalitarian’ was used as a way to describe a system with ‘totalizing’ control and authority, i.e. full control over every aspect of society.
In practice, it was and is used by American political scientists to describe both the Soviet and Fascist systems of government, with full control of the every aspect of society, with the assumption, of course, that our system operates with different, particular controls, such as privatized media, private financial markets, etc.
Under such analysis, capitalism is simply a natural phenomena, and not a ‘totalizing aspect’, because American political scientists don’t really recognize the concept of political-economy. This is one of the glaring axiomatic flaws. The particular flaws of the analysis are also quite poor, as not only was there massive privatization under Nazism, but there was fairly large latitudes in judgement that Soviets could use to pursue goals set out by the Central Soviet, and it was only during the 30’s that the central soviet pursued major dictation of society (because Stalin and his advisors (the Central committee really) correctly predicted Germany would try to expand again, and military economies have pretty strict requirements ).
This is besides the fact that even under this model of analysis, modern Russia cannot be considered totalitarian. It now shares so much similar political institutional make-up with U.S. the U.S. would also be a totalitarian government, which was explicitly not the case by the creators of this analysis.
Needless to say, it’s an incredibly flawed model that is unfortunately still taught in schools across the U.S., not just the ‘bad ones’, and tested for on standardized testing. However now it mostly has even been divorced from it’s original flaws meaning to mean ‘bad country I don’t like’s government’
His name is actually Vladimort Putler, get it right
Vladimir Putin
I’m pretty sure you’re talking about Ivan the Terrible
Oh I forgot Ivan the Terrible is ambiguous, I meant the conqueror, not the Ukrainian nazi mass murderer
How can you know nothing about what you’re talking about, yet seem to care so much?
One word…
You seem to not know who’s truly behind Russia’s invasion
That’s really not what happened, Ukraine bombed areas declaring independence, after a fachist coup
There is Hamas under Ukraine
i thought this was a bit, but then i saw the domain… it never fails
go serve yourself up a nice helping of that nuance you all love so much
However, asked if production at the factory would have been expanded sooner had the Ministry of Defence put in orders earlier, the managing director said: “The earlier an order comes, the sooner we can ramp up production.”
I’m no logistician, but surely sitting around and making artillery on demand is wholly inefficient when you know that your customer is desperate and needs as much as possible
But that would mean… maintaining an inventory!
Line could be less up!
And what if the war ends and there’s nobody to buy the inventory! Gotta make sure that the cheque clears before you lift a finger.
Let’s not be crazy, the US will refuse to let an arms dealer not profit
The “just in time” army
There’s so many businesses that shouldn’t run on a just in time basis. I can’t believe anyone thought that was a good idea for a military force.
I had a buddy who was being taught how JIT is the best thing ever during the height of the COVID logistics crash. You can’t expect business types to interact with the real world.
Sir, have you ever considered that Russia’s artillery technology is based on cheap old Soviet trash with a hit ratio of 17:1 whereas our state-of-the-art NATO precision guided rounds supplied to Ukraine are made for one shot one kill?
Unless Russia produces their munitions seventeen times as fast I’m not worried.
are made for one shot
Counterbattery fire is something NATO isn’t particularly skilled too since they use to fight opponents who don’t have artillery.
🤣
the power of uh…
basic logistics and supply
facilitated by central planning and state owned industry :)
I read on the wikipedia for I think the HIMAR missile thing, it mentioned some country buying an israeli equivalent instead, because it could fit more missiles and more could be ordered, and it explicitly stated that Lockheed Martin’s production capacity was “booked far into the future”
Newton already solved how to deliver a ballistic payload to a target, I’m sure the additional costs improve the efficiency at least twofold
Imagine losing a war to people you were earlier calling orcs and claiming they were fighting with shovels, because capitalism can’t deliver an inexpensive and good product, even for imperialism
we live in a dark comedy
