I decided to support AES with my penny, so I want to buy a phone that has 3+ years of support and is good at privacy. I was a Galaxy user with a Lineageos rom before, but I think even stock roms can be debloated.
Lemmygrad (and hex) must be the only place with pro-China folks who are also enthusiastic about privacy, so I’m asking here
All of the Chinese OEMs are pretty bad with software support tbh. Here’s an overview. Especially cheap phones will get very bad software support. If you want a capable cheap phone with reliable software updates, Samsung is probably your only safe bet right now (and they’re not Chinese).
Xiaomi has recently started making some promises for software updates, but only for their flagship devices. None of the Chinese OEMs want to support their cheaper throwaway devices. Also, expect the software of many android OEMs to be riddled with crapware and ads (Samsung, Xiaomi, and Realme are notorious for this). If you want good hardware with clean software and privacy a recent Google Pixel flashed with Graphene OS is probably your only option.
In the end it’s still a capitalist enterprise you’re “supporting”, they all want the most of your money for the least amount of work done on their part.
Pretty sure my Xiaomi Redmi 4 (best phone I ever had btw) that I bought in 2016 still gets software updates, at least it did a couple years ago. Six years of software updates is pretty decent. If Xiaomi stops with the updates, there’s always custom ROMs like MIUI.eu, LineageOS, ROMs on xda-developers or rolling your own.
Google Pixels are expensive, aren’t they? Personally, I wouldn’t spend more than 150-175€ on a phone and I expect them to last at least 2-3 years. I’ve been buying/using Xiaomis since 2016, never had a reason to switch to anything else. I don’t know how people can drop 500-600€ on a phone, you can practically buy a car for that much.
I second the Pixel idea. They’re getting 5 years of OS updates and 2 more of security updates, and they’re not expensive (~250) if you buy second hand or on a sale. Plus installing GrapheneOS is very simple, they even have a web that does it for you (Chromium-only).
Other brands are either don’t like you installing your own OS or are very expensive or old.
I currently have an Android, but I got a Huawei from Bolivia while I was there (right before the coup with Evo Morales).
It was good. I would suggest a Xiaomi though.
Poco F6 or F6 Pro
Poland fact: “Po co” means “what for” in Polish, it somehow gets me every time i see those phones in shop.
I really like the xiaomi redmi line. I bought the 9S in 2022, when it was already considered a kinda of an old model, and it still rocks.
Huawei makes excelent phones, but that google service blocking stuff really gets in the way, specially if you need to use banking apps.
What’s the budget?
I have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro. I paid around 150€ for it, cause it’s an older model (despite having better specs/features than the 11) and there’s a bunch of custom ROMs for it (including LineageOS).
Note 10 Pro gang!
Also keep in mind that voting with your wallets is only a small part of the fight.
I have a one plus 9 that I got for like 400. It’s a great device.
I have a OnePlus Nord 2 and it cost me around 200-300 euro I think. So far has been a great phone.
I’ve had Xiaomi and oneplus phones, both have been stellar. You can easily get year old models used for really cheap.
xiaomi
What is AES? Why do you specifically want a Chinese phone? De-googled Pixels are probably best for privacy, other than one of the non-Android (plain Linux) phones
- AES means Actually Existing Socialism.
- If having to buy a phone from any sort of corporate entity, they may prefer a Chinese owned entity because of reason 1.
- I agree with that, and will provide more options than with a plain Linux phone.
Ah okay, I was thinking of “Advanced Encryption Standard” and was very confused about how it fit into that context
OnePlus is pretty good. And also good supported by LineageOS. I got a OnePlus Nord phone and its awesome till today. I bought it because OnePlus is well supported by LineageOS
Vivo. If you’re a gamer like me consider RedMagic
Someone mentioned redmi. I will second that. They plenty budget phones. The note series is decent to debloat or even put lineage. There’s vivo which is also in the same range. Check em out.
