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    And who started the withdrawal and left only 2500 troops in Afghanistan by the time Biden took office?

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        You can initiate a troop withdrawal from a 20-year conflict with less than 4 months of your presidency, but you can’t select a supreme court justice unless you have an R next your party affiliation? Biden inherited a shitshow with no other option to get out as fast as possible. He’s barking at the wrong guy, of course.

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          You can blame both of them for the disastrous response. Breaking the terms of the withdrawal, imposing sanctions and then drone striking civilians in Afghanistan before withdrawal were massive contributors. Culpability isn’t black and white.

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        That shit show was caused by mango mussolini’s release of 5K Taliban troops and reducing the US troop presence to 2500 making it impossible to manage to evacuate more orderly by the agreed exist before date. None of it was the result of Biden’s decision. Unless of course you wish to claim Biden should have refused to honor the US given word.

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        Yeah, don’t know why you’re catching down votes. The withdrawal was a rushed shit show. It was always going to be a mess, but literally announcing a complete withdrawal with a wholly inflexible timeline was just handing anyone who cooperated with the gov a death sentence.

        I volunteer as a healthcare provider with an NGO that helped settle a lot of translators who worked with the military from Afghanistan to the US. Hearing about their last days escaping Kabul is always harrowing and they all left family behind.

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          Yeah, don’t know why you’re catching down votes.

          Because the person he’s replying to didn’t say anything to warrant that response. They never commented on how it went just pointing out the person this guy was protesting isn’t the one who made the withdrawal plan and took over too late to do much about it.

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        Trump refused to share any existing plans until Biden took office. Guy couldnt hit the ground running, he had to play catchup because for the first time ever a Prez refused to hand the torch. With Covid killing more than troops in a war, that took priority, then all the other domestic shit he got left with, insurrectionists, and a few months for the withdrawal (which should have had a plan in place already)

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            Why aren’t terms for Presidents one year? I takes time. Time he was not afforded. His predecessor barred him from key details and plans. Its like dumping an outside party into a CEO position and expecting a company to right itself in one quarter, without providing them any details other than “here’s our files”. It’s not possible (except Musk but see how that played out). Government is big, with lots of people who oversaw it. And yeah, Trump could have had plans in place but he was too focused on “stolen votes” to care.

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    “He is the father of Marine Lance Corporal Kareem Nikoui, who was KIA due to Joe Biden’s disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan,” Mast said online. “Joe Biden may try to turn the page on Afghanistan after his incompetence cost American lives, but NOT ON MY WATCH.”

    Last August, on the two-year anniversary of the explosion, Biden released a statement to mourn the lives of the service members and civilians who were killed in the “horrific terrorist attack.”

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/08/26/statement-from-president-joe-biden-honoring-sacrifices-of-the-service-members-killed-in-the-terrorist-attack-during-the-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

    We will forever honor the memory of the 13 service members who were stolen far too soon from their families, loved ones, and brothers- and sisters-in-arms, while performing a noble mission on behalf of our nation. We can never repay the incredible sacrifice of any of the 2,461 U.S. service members who lost their lives over two decades of war in Afghanistan or the 20,744 who were wounded. But we will never fail to honor our sacred obligation to our service members and veterans, as well as their families, caregivers, and survivors.

    Today, Jill and I remember and mourn these 13 brave American service members and the more than 100 innocent Afghan civilians who were killed in the horrific terrorist attack at Abbey Gate. Many more were injured and will carry the impacts of their wounds and the horrors of that day for the rest of their lives.

    We pray for the families of our fallen warriors. We grieve with them, we honor them, and we will always continue to support them.

    The ignorance and stupidity in this country will most certainly be our demise.

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    oh no! Not shouting?! Lock up that undemocratic lunatic. We don’t allow public criticism of our government officials.

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    Freedom of speech and the right to protest are when you get arrested for shouting at the person responsible for the death of your son.

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      Did you even read the article you posted?

      “Our officers warned him to stop and when he did not, the man was removed from the House Galleries,” USCP said in a statement. He was arrested for crowding, obstructing or incommoding, said USCP, which added that “disrupting the Congress and demonstrating in the Congressional Buildings is illegal.”

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        So freedom of speech is when speech is illegal. Got it.

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          It’s not what he said that got him in trouble, it was disrupting the event and refusing to leave. Freedom of speech doesn’t give you the right to stand on top of a fast food counter and yell about politics either. If they ask you to leave, you must leave. Stop being so obtuse.

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              I do agree with that fully. $500 fine and up to 90 days in prison is the range according to the article. I think a week or two is plenty, so I’m thinking less than 20% of the max. Since the guy lost his son, I’d be fine with 3 days or so honestly.

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            Classic liberal - public politics on government property is exactly like McBurgers.

            It was a public event, on public land, in public property, and it was about politics. It couldn’t have been more germane to the context. He also didn’t “stand on the counter”. The fact that he was asked to leave for doing anything other than cheering and clapping is the problem

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            Aww is your poor sacred freedom of speech being attacked by checks notes your President?

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              Umm…no? lol. Freedom of speech doesn’t give the right to conduct that speech however one chooses, it gives one the ability to say or print whatever one wants without being arrested for the content of that speech. Unlike, say Russia, where you can be arrested for saying anything bad about Putin. This guy is allowed to go on the news and call Biden whatever he wants…but he’s also not free to threaten Biden’s life for instance because free speech has always had limits. Only people with limited education who are engaging in black and white thinking don’t get that.

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      Nah, his son was responsible for his own death. I won’t say he deserved to die but I will say I dgaf about dead marines.