This is a post for Lemmygrad members to talk about things liberals are doing/saying. Let’s vent about liberal bullshit together.
This is a post for Lemmygrad members to talk about things liberals are doing/saying. Let’s vent about liberal bullshit together.
Libs thinking freedom literally means dying of exposure in the street. And that being able to say the absolute most bigoted thing on earth is better than guaranteeing food, shelter, education and clothing for all.
The utter state of idealism is a philosophical black hole that devours any possibility of discussion about providing material goods for people to enrich or maintain healthy lives.
I see liberalism as an extension of Platonism and Christianity after that. It’s a continuation of the belief that the ideal world(words/ideas/concepts aka heaven) is objectively logical or pure and gives birth to the material world. That’s where a lot of this idiotic drivel comes from about left-Puritanism. It’s better to hold the “correct” ideal belief(anarchism) than to practice an imperfect/incomplete system that must function in the real world. It’s better to lose and be pure than to win and make mistakes along the way.
It’s also the reason capitalism functions. If we stop pretending money isn’t made up and that the bourgeois can’t actually work 300x or even 2x more or better than their employees, or that landlords don’t actually do anything, or that infinite growth of wealth is nonsense then it all logically comes crashing down. The only way to maintain the liberal status quo is by denying the material world and it’s constraints.
That first paragraph is spot-on. Somehow they believe that it’d be better to be homeless, starving and without healthcare as long as they’re able to “criticize the government”
And then what happens after the criticism? Nothing.
The Dutch government totally fucked over tens of thousands of families and incorrectly labeled them frauds, causing suicides, evictions, torn apart families in thousands of euros of debt. This was a deliberate action.
Everyone was so outraged. How could this have happened?? Cue the elections after 2 months where the country votes on the exact same government.
But boy did they show they were mad! No consequences though, we’re not radicals.
“It’s better to hold the “correct” ideal belief(anarchism) than to practice an imperfect/incomplete system that must function in the real world. It’s better to lose and be pure than to win and make mistakes along the way.”
As a former anarchist I can say you hit the nail on the head. I didn’t want to “corrupt” myself. I thought I was righteous but really I was just privileged. Doing an authoritarianism is wrong and I’m all about doing what’s right so obviously then the only option is to talk to people and hope that they eventually see the light.
That mindset quickly changed when I started reading more, hearing out the “tankies” and questioning some of my conditioning. At some point I just realized that this pipedream of a “natural” revolution occurring without the need for violence or suppression was not just incredibly naive, but in a way, cruel as fuck. Every day there is so much suffering in the world, most of which I never have to think about let alone experience. And here I am, declaring that things will surely change at some point, once a spontaneous grassroots revolution happens. Several people just died from starvation or other easily preventable causes just in the time it took me to write this. I doubt they would find any comfort in the dreams of western anarchists.