I would slightly disagree on the first part, I would say that the vast majority of Chinese people are more strongly devoted to their government/economic model than an average person or the average country, but I agree in that most people of China aren’t hardcore communist fanatics like neoliberals sometimes portray them as. Sometimes I think there should be more general support for communism in China, but I also think it could be a blessing in disguise. “Apolitical” people can point out the flaws in all sides, and supporting the status quo in China is a great thing, and the people are very supportive and independent without being a “hive mind”. But that does lend credence to your argument, I suppose.
I also agree that we should save mocking neoliberal’s arguments for after they are thoroughly broken down and disproven.
Oh yeah, I wasn’t very clear. I would imagine China has a lot fewer of the insufferable “I don’t like to talk about politics” people than the west, I meant more in a sense of “the government’s doing a good job, so I don’t really care about their ideology as long as they’re doing well.” I think this probably a “no investigation, no right to speak” thing for me though, I’m only going off of second and third hand accounts from people, and I imagine somewhere like Shanghai has a very different attitude in general to somewhere like rural Yunnan.
Though if China’s government was actually capitalist, we would see the same eroding of social programs and people’s QOL we see under all capitalist goverments, not constant improvement, so the argument falls apart on that merit as well.
I would slightly disagree on the first part, I would say that the vast majority of Chinese people are more strongly devoted to their government/economic model than an average person or the average country, but I agree in that most people of China aren’t hardcore communist fanatics like neoliberals sometimes portray them as. Sometimes I think there should be more general support for communism in China, but I also think it could be a blessing in disguise. “Apolitical” people can point out the flaws in all sides, and supporting the status quo in China is a great thing, and the people are very supportive and independent without being a “hive mind”. But that does lend credence to your argument, I suppose.
I also agree that we should save mocking neoliberal’s arguments for after they are thoroughly broken down and disproven.
Oh yeah, I wasn’t very clear. I would imagine China has a lot fewer of the insufferable “I don’t like to talk about politics” people than the west, I meant more in a sense of “the government’s doing a good job, so I don’t really care about their ideology as long as they’re doing well.” I think this probably a “no investigation, no right to speak” thing for me though, I’m only going off of second and third hand accounts from people, and I imagine somewhere like Shanghai has a very different attitude in general to somewhere like rural Yunnan.
Though if China’s government was actually capitalist, we would see the same eroding of social programs and people’s QOL we see under all capitalist goverments, not constant improvement, so the argument falls apart on that merit as well.
Shanghai does. They have a reputation (at least online) for being full of libs.