No one is denying that HK citizens have reasons to protest. Its the most expensive city in the world, and people live in tiny rooms that have nothing more than a bed. But their anger is directed in the completely wrong direction, they should protest against the property owners and the HK government, not against China.
They have been protesting against the HK government (including the current Chief Executive, Carrie Lam). However, that system is subordinate to the central mainland government, and that government has been directing the response to these protests. What reason is there to presume to know better about Hongkongers’ situation than they do themselves?
Did you know that companies vote directly for 30 out of 70 Legislative Council seats in Hong Kong? Why was it not part of the protestors demands to change this?
That the Hong Kong protestors are revisionist, they are literally asking for more capitalism and imperialism. Its not about right or wrong, its about the class character of the protest.
No one is denying that HK citizens have reasons to protest. Its the most expensive city in the world, and people live in tiny rooms that have nothing more than a bed. But their anger is directed in the completely wrong direction, they should protest against the property owners and the HK government, not against China.
They have been protesting against the HK government (including the current Chief Executive, Carrie Lam). However, that system is subordinate to the central mainland government, and that government has been directing the response to these protests. What reason is there to presume to know better about Hongkongers’ situation than they do themselves?
Did you know that companies vote directly for 30 out of 70 Legislative Council seats in Hong Kong? Why was it not part of the protestors demands to change this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_constituency_(Hong_Kong)
You’re right, I guess I forgot the rule that protesters’ demands can only be valid if they address every single possible issue.
I’m amazed how well you are able to ignore every single point I make, and argue against strawmen instead.
What am I ignoring? I think it’s strange for leftists in the West to tell the people of Hong Kong they’re protesting wrong.
That the Hong Kong protestors are revisionist, they are literally asking for more capitalism and imperialism. Its not about right or wrong, its about the class character of the protest.
That doesn’t seem to be reflected in their demands:
full withdrawal of the extradition bill
an independent inquiry into the protests
fully democratic elections
dropping of the term “riot” in describing protests
general amnesty for everyone arrested so far
What do imperialism and capitalism have to do with any of that?
That is hard to say when each demand is described in less than 10 words. Is there a longer version anywhere?
Listen to this to understand: https://soundcloud.com/moderaterebels/hong-kong-protests-anti-china-nativism-carl-zha