- cross-posted to:
- worldnews@lemmy.ml
- news@hexbear.net
- cross-posted to:
- worldnews@lemmy.ml
- news@hexbear.net
Turns out that the 50 NATO countries supporting Ukraine, led by the United States, recently discussed how much and what Kiev will have to surrender (not only territory) in order to enter into peace negotiations with Russia and how the collective West can save face.
These considerations are caused both by an analysis of the dynamics at the front, and by the situation in these European countries and in the States, where there is a deadlock in the issue of supplying Ukraine, and Russia’s supply seems endless.
Ukraine is experiencing problems with mobilization, even to the point of protests for demobilization and the methods of the Ukrainian authorities to send new meat to the front.
As the war drags on the calls for surrender will become tougher and the west will begin to demand faster surrender with more concessions. The impasse over aid to Ukraine is only growing stronger as attention shifts to Israel’s war with Hamas.
It’s also worth noting the rhetoric about a certain “dead end” on the battlefield where supposedly neither side can advance successfully that’s now being parroted all across western media. The simple truth that Russia is winning can’t be printed in the mainstream media, but a dead end narrative is politically acceptable. Both Arestovich and Zaluzhny recently expressed themselves in the same vein.
Pretty much, these talks are obviously going to happen on Russian terms. The real tragedy here is that if the west didn’t interfere i the peace talks in March last year, then Ukraine would’ve got a far better deal, hundreds of thousands of people wouldn’t have died, and millions more wouldn’t have had their lives ruined. All the west accomplished was to increase human suffering by orders of magnitude and ensure that the outcome for Ukraine is far more catastrophic.
All the scumbags who called negotiations appeasement and kept cheering this on have a lot of blood on their hands.
It never fails to astonish me how much blood Americans have on our collective hands, and yet we all just continue on about our way, not just pretending that nothing happened the way it did, but educating our children to never even ask if it happened elseways to the way we say it did.
The most depressing part is how most people jump at every new war never learning from past experience, like this is going to be the one war where US is on the right side of history.
This is also to say nothing of the selling off of large amounts of Ukrainian assets at an accelerated rate as well. Which will directly and indirectly impact the lives of Ukrainians for a very long time.
Exactly, the people of Ukraine are being robbed by the west as their country is destroyed. A lot of the assets have now been sold to firms like BlackRock, and Ukraine is on the hook for a bunch of loans it has no hope of ever paying off. Whatever is left under western control is going to be brutally exploited.