u/RedDeadlifts - originally from r/GenZhou
What is the point in lemmygrad? The advantage of Genzedong on Reddit is crossposting and attracting people to the page and converting them to the ideology.
What does creating a separate space for Genzedong users achieve? It’s a place to hang out with other MLs and post memes sure - but you can do that with real life organising
u/s1syphean - originally from r/GenZhou
Because we should and have to conceive of Reddit being a transient step towards federated platforms.
Federated platforms are the future and we should invest in them now, partially by forming pipelines to it in the presently dominant forum.
Commenting here for visibility - Lemmygrad is more than just a knock-off subreddit replacement. Let us actively leverage Lemmy’s federative structure in our favor.
Right now, the bulk of the activity on Lemmygrad is happening in one community: lemmygrad.ml/c/genzedong. This is expected and completely normal. We are in the immediate aftermath of a mass exodus away from one of the last large, explicit bastions of anti-imperialism and communism on Reddit, and in our haste to settle we have made and populated /c/genzedong, and, in doing so, recreated the home we were familiar with: a all-purpose hub designed to be a seat of ML engagement. However, while familiar, many unfavorable structural features forced upon us by merely existing on Reddit have carried over with us. We became desensitized to the less-than-ideal compromises we made to have a presence on Reddit, and, now that we have stepped outside into greener pastures, our eyes have not quite adjusted to the new opportunities to aid our cause. Let’s accelerate the acclimation!
TL;DR: We are no longer constrained from things as simple as outletting frustration by wishing death on Nazis to the more impactful, such as the freedom to actively organize and brigade. There are myriad new ways we can better equip ourselves for the long fight with the tools and technology Lemmy’s federalized structure offers us. We should lean into these changes quickly.
To contribute to this process (which is happening and will continue to happen whether or not we expedite it), I will outline a niche of optimization yet unexplored:
Lemmygrad is already the /r/genzedong equivalent that /c/genzedong is trying to be.
Lemmygrad is an instance of the Lemmy structure. Lemmy instances can be thought of as what subreddits would be if they were hosted on their own separate domain/websites. More accurately, you can also think of Lemmy instances as what Reddit would look like if you could just copy Reddit’s code, buy a domain, and make your own version of Reddit that you own and administrate, instead of some large company in San Fransisco that can delete you and your forum off of their site for stating that there was no massacre in Tiananmen Square. Consequently, we need to treat Lemmygrad as if we stumbled upon an unoccupied yet functional Reddit domain, with full subreddit capability.
We are no longer forced to view /c/genzedong as a catch-all forum for every possible ML post, as a de-facto standard-bearer and home for those posts that have no better place to be posted. As we grow, we should periodically fracture off posts by purpose into new, focused communities.
Among some already-implemented ideas to spark this transition:
a /r/worldnews equivalent that isn’t a hellscape of propaganda as a place for the /r/genzedong posts about significant global developments:
Create your own communities to fill important niches we were prevented from imagining at Reddit.
Link this post to all places that contain people disenfranchised and disillusioned by Reddit’s looming ban of /r/genzedong (e.g. Reddit, Discord, Telegram, Element, etc…). We need to advertise whyLemmygradis more than just a knock-off subreddit replacement that will be forgotten about in a month. Moreover, we should aim towards reaching appreciation of the unique opportunities Lemmy presents for the people already inside the community.
u/vibe-juice - originally from r/GenZhou
There are those of us who live in rural shitholes and can’t organize in real life. The closest socialist party for me is a several hour drive away.
So alternate online forms of Marxist Leninist communities are much better for keeping ourselves informed.
u/foxmulder2014 - originally from r/GenZhou
Form your own chapter
I live in a small, mostly rural village (it’s not a shithole though) and me and my buddy (who I convinced to read “Introduction to Marxism”) and we formed our own chapter.
Via online we contacted a bigger group for logistical support, information, etc
They even gave us some info on leftists they knew lived in our area and we eventually got a group of 7 people.
u/vibe-juice - originally from r/GenZhou
Yeah, I’m not married to this area, I’m going to move soon. Things aren’t always simple as “forming your own chapter”
u/RedDeadlifts - originally from r/GenZhouWhat is the point in lemmygrad? The advantage of Genzedong on Reddit is crossposting and attracting people to the page and converting them to the ideology.
What does creating a separate space for Genzedong users achieve? It’s a place to hang out with other MLs and post memes sure - but you can do that with real life organising
Or ‘touch grass’ as the kids say
u/s1syphean - originally from r/GenZhouBecause we should and have to conceive of Reddit being a transient step towards federated platforms.
Federated platforms are the future and we should invest in them now, partially by forming pipelines to it in the presently dominant forum.
Commenting here for visibility - Lemmygrad is more than just a knock-off subreddit replacement. Let us actively leverage Lemmy’s federative structure in our favor.
Right now, the bulk of the activity on Lemmygrad is happening in one community: lemmygrad.ml/c/genzedong. This is expected and completely normal. We are in the immediate aftermath of a mass exodus away from one of the last large, explicit bastions of anti-imperialism and communism on Reddit, and in our haste to settle we have made and populated /c/genzedong, and, in doing so, recreated the home we were familiar with: a all-purpose hub designed to be a seat of ML engagement. However, while familiar, many unfavorable structural features forced upon us by merely existing on Reddit have carried over with us. We became desensitized to the less-than-ideal compromises we made to have a presence on Reddit, and, now that we have stepped outside into greener pastures, our eyes have not quite adjusted to the new opportunities to aid our cause. Let’s accelerate the acclimation!
TL;DR: We are no longer constrained from things as simple as outletting frustration by wishing death on Nazis to the more impactful, such as the freedom to actively organize and brigade. There are myriad new ways we can better equip ourselves for the long fight with the tools and technology Lemmy’s federalized structure offers us. We should lean into these changes quickly.
To contribute to this process (which is happening and will continue to happen whether or not we expedite it), I will outline a niche of optimization yet unexplored:
Lemmygrad is already the /r/genzedong equivalent that /c/genzedong is trying to be.
Lemmygrad is an instance of the Lemmy structure. Lemmy instances can be thought of as what subreddits would be if they were hosted on their own separate domain/websites. More accurately, you can also think of Lemmy instances as what Reddit would look like if you could just copy Reddit’s code, buy a domain, and make your own version of Reddit that you own and administrate, instead of some large company in San Fransisco that can delete you and your forum off of their site for stating that there was no massacre in Tiananmen Square. Consequently, we need to treat Lemmygrad as if we stumbled upon an unoccupied yet functional Reddit domain, with full subreddit capability.
We are no longer forced to view /c/genzedong as a catch-all forum for every possible ML post, as a de-facto standard-bearer and home for those posts that have no better place to be posted. As we grow, we should periodically fracture off posts by purpose into new, focused communities.
Among some already-implemented ideas to spark this transition:
What You Should Do Right Now
u/vibe-juice - originally from r/GenZhouThere are those of us who live in rural shitholes and can’t organize in real life. The closest socialist party for me is a several hour drive away.
So alternate online forms of Marxist Leninist communities are much better for keeping ourselves informed.
u/foxmulder2014 - originally from r/GenZhouForm your own chapter
I live in a small, mostly rural village (it’s not a shithole though) and me and my buddy (who I convinced to read “Introduction to Marxism”) and we formed our own chapter.
Via online we contacted a bigger group for logistical support, information, etc
They even gave us some info on leftists they knew lived in our area and we eventually got a group of 7 people.
Mind you, it was hard work and took years.
u/vibe-juice - originally from r/GenZhouYeah, I’m not married to this area, I’m going to move soon. Things aren’t always simple as “forming your own chapter”
u/foxmulder2014 - originally from r/GenZhouAgreed
It’s far from simple. I assure you, I’ve been there
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u/vibe-juice - originally from r/GenZhouI have a degree in graphic design you dumb fuck.
I chose to live in this rural shithole bc my dad had a stroke and I don’t believe in abandoning family.
u/foxmulder2014 - originally from r/GenZhour/GenZhukov partially fulfils that role for the moment. Most members and some mods come from GZD
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