• big_spoon
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    i’m not totally convinced that this is satire or parody…

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      Same. I am still debating with myself if this is just satire or they actually believe in what they said.

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        Their are tons of Californians like this. Some are even family members. It’s an extremely common thing for right-wing Californians to say “If we tax the billionaires, then they’ll leave in droves like out state is already making them do” and your average neolib Californian has nothing but vague statistics to point to, which no one gives a fuck about.

        If you suggest, “hey geniuses, the billionare can’t pick up the fucking Walmart and leave, all that infrastructure is still there, and could just be operated by the state.” Then you get double teamed. The neolib says it’s not politically feasible (yeah cuz your dumbass keeps holding water for Democrats) and the reactionary just says that if you think it’s inefficient now than it’ll be 10 times more inefficient if the government does it, cuz look at how inefficient the government is.

        So the debate remains between a smarmy neolib who doesn’t understand economic systems and a conservative who grovels at the billionaires feet because their petty bourgeois themselves.

        Literally just take a look at the California subreddit and watch your will to live drain from your body. It’s been prime territory for Gassing up Gas-Loving Newsome for president for over a year and continuing.

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          Huh, that sucks. Any thoughts on why it’s like that in California? I’m wondering myself if it has something to do with the amount of wealth there, with it having Hollywood and Silicon Valley and all. Not to say everyone there has money, but that there may be a disproportionate number who do compared to some parts of the country?

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            A lot of it comes from the various globe defining industries that emerge from here I’d say, along with the fact that every attempt at radical politics has been crushed into the dirt.

            Syndacalysts? Explicitly banned in the 1800s.

            Communist organizing undocumented people and dic workers? Crushed by a combination of white supremacists deputized by Herbert Hoover’s capitlist clique, and betrayed by New Deal politicians who defanged the unions.

            The Black Panthers? Quid Pro Quo until it’s become a shell of its former self.

            Not to mention that most of the newest and shiniest tools that the capitlist class uses to plunder the world often come directly from California. It’s foundational to the states identity and industry.

            Our rail roads were due to massive speculative bubbles where various world conglomerates gambled away billions after being hoodwinked by charlatans, and that model of financial speculation became the main strategy our entrepreneurs would use. It’s called the Associates playbook after the original collection of snake oils who got rich off the rail road. Also rapacious hydraulic mining methods that literally destroy the faces of mountains were largely developed here by California engineers. These engineers were demanded across the imperial world to make plunder more efficient (which they were scarily good at), and they basically just copy pasted the associates model, restructuring extraction operations to make massive profits without even really increasing the yield of gold.

            Herbert Hoover got famous for this as an example, along with doing things like restructuring the labor forces in the places he was sent to in order to stoke racial tensions and break workers solidarity.

            If you list out the most important tools used by the capitlist class to rape the world through the last two centuries there’s a good fucking chance it was developed by Engineers in California. Radios for bombers during WWII, tons of weapons created by aerospace engineers, early computing for the military, massive social media, Uber (yeah just looked it up, and it’s from San Fran, which I expected), and probably whatever new terrors that will be developed. All of them were developed by the same speculative bubble model which always ends up fucking even the engineers over in the end.

            With all that said, California capitalists have also always felt entitled to more control over US policy. It’s like they’ve got a chip on their shoulder against East Coast capitlists who they feel keep them out of the absolute power they deserve. Take the silicon valley oligarchs into consideration, they’re obviously oligarchs but they are still frothing at the mouth to have a bigger piece of the pie than the legacy capitalists on the other coast.

            This resentment might be due to Stanford University’s eugenisist foundation, as that University is basically the ideological and material driver of our industry here in California. A feeling of being inherently superior but not being recognized as such and given the world on a platter.

            For an actual analysis of California that’s more coherent and in depth, than I can’t recommend enough Palo Alto: A History of California, Capitalism, and the World by Malcom Harris.

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        I get that. It does feel more satirical by the end especially with the exchange about “mogging” and “chopped uncs”… like somebody took an internet convo and put it in RL. I don’t know what to make of it.

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    this is all a joke. i’ve been following one of the interviewers on tiktok for many years

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      Have they openly labeled it as satire on their tiktok or something? Would like to be able to verify somehow with a source, so we know for the future with this person.

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    “I don’t want to see eye to eye with them, I want to destroy them” Western politics in a nutshell lmao

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    I really want to think this is a masterfully carried out mockery of billionaires, but if this was true I suspect word would have gotten out as to who are these people who are marching here, but I suppose it’s possible they keep a really low profile and don’t speak out publicly.

    Regardless, do you think it’s actually worth it to organize a false flag like this or is it just more empty platitudes that don’t really achieve anything?

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    why interview a teen-aged edgelord tho

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    There are lots of satitical skits on Twitter. This isn’t really something actual reactionaries are saying. Come on, there’re plenty of material here.