Sure, people sometimes look at the past from the perspective of privileged classes. Ancient Rome or Middle Ages were anything but glorious for poor folks. We should stop romanticizing them.
Well it’s the ruling class that writes history. It’s not just ancient past, very recent past as well - just think of all the nostalgia cropping up for 1950’s or 1980’s!
There is no nostalgia for 50s and 80s in public discourse in my country, which basically confirms your point - it were socialist times, which the current rulling class hates. Media screetch thay we “defeated communism and won our freedom”, many young people think that whatever happens is million times better than horrible 50s and 80s. But I can imagine what you mean.
Apologies, I should have specified yankee media - since that is what dominates the world media. But also on the topic of flinging crap at the socialist times - we get that as well in Russia. Not just in media, as you mentioned - the term “Sovok” is used as a derogatory for things people dislike and (usually erroneously) associate with USSR. Ya know, such obviously socialist concepts as bureaucracy, employers monitoring every move a worker makes and punishing them for time off, unpaid overtime, etc
I only get salty when Americans do it 😆 When I still lurked on reddit, I wrote a post about how educational system takes part in anti-communist propaganda and historical misinformation with my personal experiences attached and I got many responses from Americans who related to this and assumed I wrote specifically about the US schools. One of them even wrote ironically: “You see, we Americans are the best at everything!” No, my dear American comrade, I didn’t even say a word about US schools specifically - that’s the situation in many other places of the world, too.
But we have to give it to them - their system spreads everywhere, so there is a grain of truth in their assumptions. Poland wants to be “American” as much as possible and it breaks my heart. It seems to be tied to the anti-Russian propaganda that is spread by the government and I’m horrified how quickly liberals swallow it. Even if we put things that way, I would guess that we have more in common culturally than with yankees. I dream that some day we will put end to this insanity and unite under the red banner against the US imperialism.
Thanks for sharing some new information with me, I’m always happy to learn about your country and I know these Sovok things from my own experience, but it’s strange - I never lived in a socialist country 🤔
Sure, people sometimes look at the past from the perspective of privileged classes. Ancient Rome or Middle Ages were anything but glorious for poor folks. We should stop romanticizing them.
Well it’s the ruling class that writes history. It’s not just ancient past, very recent past as well - just think of all the nostalgia cropping up for 1950’s or 1980’s!
There is no nostalgia for 50s and 80s in public discourse in my country, which basically confirms your point - it were socialist times, which the current rulling class hates. Media screetch thay we “defeated communism and won our freedom”, many young people think that whatever happens is million times better than horrible 50s and 80s. But I can imagine what you mean.
Apologies, I should have specified yankee media - since that is what dominates the world media. But also on the topic of flinging crap at the socialist times - we get that as well in Russia. Not just in media, as you mentioned - the term “Sovok” is used as a derogatory for things people dislike and (usually erroneously) associate with USSR. Ya know, such obviously socialist concepts as bureaucracy, employers monitoring every move a worker makes and punishing them for time off, unpaid overtime, etc
No need to apologize.
I only get salty when Americans do it 😆 When I still lurked on reddit, I wrote a post about how educational system takes part in anti-communist propaganda and historical misinformation with my personal experiences attached and I got many responses from Americans who related to this and assumed I wrote specifically about the US schools. One of them even wrote ironically: “You see, we Americans are the best at everything!” No, my dear American comrade, I didn’t even say a word about US schools specifically - that’s the situation in many other places of the world, too.
But we have to give it to them - their system spreads everywhere, so there is a grain of truth in their assumptions. Poland wants to be “American” as much as possible and it breaks my heart. It seems to be tied to the anti-Russian propaganda that is spread by the government and I’m horrified how quickly liberals swallow it. Even if we put things that way, I would guess that we have more in common culturally than with yankees. I dream that some day we will put end to this insanity and unite under the red banner against the US imperialism.
Thanks for sharing some new information with me, I’m always happy to learn about your country and I know these Sovok things from my own experience, but it’s strange - I never lived in a socialist country 🤔