I don’t know if this is the best community to post to but I intend this to be a serious post.

What are your impressions of people who, in short, think of themselves as marxist communists but reject any form of what they call idpol? Best exemplified by r/stupidpol on Reddit.

It’s probably there that I have to point out that we are not liberals, we combat liberalism, and so we are against liberal idpol, but not marxist analyses of identity or intersectionality – which the stupidpoller is incapable of differentiating and so fights all equally. Or maybe I should say i because I don’t speak for everyone, but this is generally my experience in my org and with online comrades.

My impression is that they stay mostly between themselves and you rarely see them outside of their spaces. But when they spill out, you spot them directly because they look like reactionaries. Think about that: they look more like fascists than communists.

Have you met people like this in real life? There is actually one in my org, kinda. I think more than having a principled position, he is mostly uninformed on these issues and he would probably be open to being corrected.

I don’t believe they do anything for the movement. They don’t seem class-conscious to me, as they regularly get in fights with other comrades. Their misanthropy towards people is ultimately misanthropy towards the working class.

What is the typical profile, if you had to make one? What leads people to adopting these positions? Personally, I am completely against such spaces because they harbour fascists (obviously, as they have more in common with national-socialists than communists) and if a young communist begins their journey there, chances are they’ll never move beyond and stay stuck in this reactionary space for all their revolutionary lives.

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    /r/stupidpol was a natural progression from the “Dirtbag left” types (like Vaush). The sub was actually started by a few /r/ChapoTrapHouse users who always got downvoted for class reductionism. It somehow devolved into allowing racial and sexist slurs. Then it invited conservatives with open arms, which isn’t surprising since they both uphold this abstract notion of “idpol” (which is really a spook in the way they inconsistently utilize the term).

    Like another user said, not every /r/stupidpol user is a reactionary or class reductionist. Some of their content is legitimately criticizing liberal idpol and woke capitalism. Especially since the banwave. But for some reason, this space has also created a legion of reactionary leftists who fight the same culture war they criticize.