• Makan
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    11 days ago

    Wait a second, Trump isn’t President

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      11 days ago

      From what I’ve heard the political pressure placed on Israel to agree to a ceasefire came from the Trump team - he wanted a ceasefire to be in place before he became president. That’s why it’s agreed for Sunday before his inauguration on Monday.

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        11 days ago

        From what I heard, the political pressure came from Hamas, which was winning the war.

        Therefore, Trump had nothing to do with it.

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          11 days ago

          I don’t know about that. I doubt this would’ve happened at this time if Kamala Harris won. Palestinians have been hurt so much by the Zionist entity and Trump made a big thing about himself supposedly promoting peace in his campaign, so this might be to placate some of his supporters in the US.

          Hamas was never going to be 100% defeated and Netanyahu has wanted to drag the war out for a while.

          I don’t know if ‘Israel’ is going to fully honour the deal or not. Reading through it, it seems as though they have room to maintain some form of increased occupation of the Gaza Strip. I really hope that Hamas haven’t agreed to a permanent veiled/obfuscated Israeli occupation of the Netzarim and Philadelphi corridors but unfortunately that is what I suspect might be the case. But I am glad that Palestinians will be able to leave Zionist concentration camps.

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            11 days ago

            I don’t know about that. I doubt Trump had anything to do with it; he’s a Zionist and so are his advisors.

            Anyway, Hamas won. That’s what my Palestinian friends are saying. I trust my Palestinian friends.

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          9 days ago

          Both can be true. Hamas was winning the war and all Israel would do was kill innocent civilians.

          I believe that the empire has to go on the charm offensive to get Muslims on its side as cannon fodder for a proxy war against China. America will not send its good old boys for a war against China.

          Get ready for the slow propaganda process of america actually cares about Muslims and China is actually the one that is doing genocide bullshit. This was needed for the empire to save its image and mitigate the world’s disgust. The dems lost on purpose and took one for the empire.

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            8 days ago

            I doubt it. Israel will come out stronger, or they believe it will, if Israel wins, and gains more control of more territory. And they will, if they have free reign over the resources of Gaza and the new Syrian territory added to their country, which has a bevy of oil and minerals. Hamas is opposed to U.S. imperialist aims and is not like the ETIM or YPG or other U.S. Muslim proxies, which were essentially created by the USA, or have had extensive development by the USA.

            Hamas can not be persuaded, therefore they have to destroy Hamas or significantly weaken it or strengthen Israel. A stronger Israel and a taking out of Syria, which has been achieved, means that they don’t have to worry too much about the Middle-East going forward when they attack China, or if they do, in the near future.

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              Hamas can not be persuaded, therefore they have to destroy Hamas or significantly weaken it or strengthen Israel.

              If they could have they wouldn’t have signed this ceasefire. Wasn’t that the entire objective of the war aside from the genocide. The israelis aren’t omnipotent gods. They just lost a war to their own concentration camp as you just said that it has more to do with the ceasefire than Trump. I also believe this.

              Syrian territory added to their country, which has a bevy of oil and minerals. Hamas is opposed to U.S. imperialist aims and is not like the ETIM or YPG or other U.S. Muslim proxies, which were essentially created by the USA, or have had extensive development by the USA.

              They were handed that territory on a platter and they haven’t had to fight to maintain it. There are other groups that aren’t comparadors, that can decide to start targeting Israeli troops in Syria and their troops are cowards, we have all seen it. The US and its northern alliance compradors also had lightning quick success at the start of the afghan war. Another example is 1980s Lebanon where the example is the idf itself.

              I was watching an interview with a Hamas representative in Pakistan and he was mentioning why the comprador media in the gulf states and in Pakistan try to portray Israel as omnipotent. It’s so the elites of those nations can justify normalization and doing business with them. This was also their rationale for distributing resistance videos to show the world that everyone is mortal, even israelis.

              There is no point in doom and gloom, the zionist state has to be destroyed and it will be.

              Edit TLDR: the good people of the region and the world just have to cement in their mind that the entity must be destroyed. Yes, there will be setbacks and losses. The alternative however is what happened to the indigenous in our western hemisphere. That process took 4 centuries and is ongoing.

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                Okay, none of this contradicts what I’ve said.

                Hamas doesn’t need to be courted because it can’t.

                In addition, they managed to force Israel to a ceasefire.

                Clearly, they have nothing really to lose at this point.

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                  Contradicting you wasn’t my goal, comrade. Please don’t take it that way.

                  They got some successes but it wasn’t by their own doing was my point. Their army is still a joke, it can’t win on the ground unless people let it, which is what happened in Syria. They need to be given something to lose, i.e. a lot of troops in Syria.

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                    3 days ago

                    It was by the doing of Lebanon and themselves.

                    And Hamas is not a joke.

                    Stop giving bourgeois politicians credit.