• amemorablename
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    14 hours ago

    I’m curious if anyone knows how similar he is to Bernie Sanders? I’ve heard the two compared before vaguely, but I’m not very clear on the specifics. They both seem to inhabit that space of saying things like, you know, “maybe we shouldn’t destroy the world in a nuclear holocaust” and being called a radical for doing so. Or like, “I watched Star Wars and while I’m not totally sold on the rebel alliance, I do at least disagree with some of the things that Emperor Palpatine did.” And then people are like, “How dare you support those Death-Star-destroying rebels.” (Maybe joking a bit with that second example, but I’m not sure it’s far off if you make it analogous to geopolitics.)

    But I feel like somebody said once he’s a bit more to the left of Bernie. Not really sure.

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      14 hours ago

      Not really similar, while not a communist Corbyn is a genuine leftist, consistent and principled in his way. Bernie on the other hand is controlled opposition, a sellout.

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        I think Bernie’s heart is in the right place, he’s just afraid of being completely removed from the apparatus like they did to Ralph Nader.

        And look at what they did to Jezza- total character assassination with that antisemitism bullshit.

        Naw both of them are good guys, just Jezzas got bigger ahem ideas

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          he’s just afraid of being completely removed from the apparatus

          But that’s exactly what controlled opposition means, you only rebel within the boundaries set by the ruling class and fall in line where it actually matters (like imperialism). And Dem “progressives” still backstabbed him, so why keep doing it?

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          Bernie “Israel has a right to defend itself” Sanders is a “good guy”? Until a few years ago i may have believed that but at this point that’s just not believable when you take even a cursory look at who he has consistently aligned himself with. He’s a sheepdog for imperialism, plain and simple.

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            12 hours ago

            Yeah I feel you. Massive L on the genocide and even though he was the ONLY person to raise the vote to stop shipments that was of course voted down TODAY, it was too little too late.

            He’s in game of thrones shit where he uses leverage when he can, but I agree with you he capitulated to cowardice because he still believes in incremental change.

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              Don’t forget all the support Bernie has given to the US war machine. He pretends he’s antiwar because he voted against the invasion of Iraq once and then subsequently voted to fund that invasion for the next ten years. He’s also funnelled money into his state to build up the weapons manufacturing industry there.

              He does not deserve the benefit of the doubt at this point as he has clearly voted to support US imperialism his entire career. The man makes some good critiques publicly, but they are empty of any meaningful actions or directly opposed by his actions.

              Bernie is not a principled leftist and hasn’t been since at least the 90s. There is a good reason Parenti cut ties with him.

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                10 hours ago

                I know. All the criticism is legit. But again he is the only person in the us government calling to end shipments of weapons to isntreal. Keep that in mind. Even if he capitulated on multiple occasions, he is THE ONLY VOICE IN GOVERNMENT calling for change and that has a modicum of influence on the voting population. And again I will reiterate are you in a union? Are you organizing a Union? Can you strike. Because that is literally the only political power we have other than an armed doohickey revolution

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          13 hours ago

          bernie’s old as fuck and he already has enough money to spend the rest of his time on earth out of poverty. what the fuck is he afraid of? what’s he waiting for?

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            12 hours ago

            He’s trying to use political capital for incremental change. He still believes the system will eventually work. Which of course is nonsense.

            Organize unionize strike. That’s literally all we have. Y’all in a union? Yall organizing?