• trashxeos
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    2 months ago

    Wait, did I miss something, when the hell did Isntreal did 9/11 become a thing?! Yikes!

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      It’s been a very far right, literal Nazi, meme-but-not-a-meme thing (if you ever see how the groypers act, you know what I mean. “It’s all a joke wink wink!” (Hint: it is not a joke)) since, well, forever. It’s less about Israel as a nationstate doing 9/11 and more specifically about “the Jews” doing 9/11. But Israel goes out of its way to equate Israel with all Jewish people, boosting this type of antisemitism as people constantly warn about. So, Nazis just use Israel/Zionist/Jew all interchangeably depending on the layer of mask they want to wear.

      And, yes, believing “the Jewish cabal” did 9/11 or whatever is a conspiracy theory so stupid that it is laughable. That’s probably why it doesn’t catch much mainstream right wing (but not quite explicitly Nazi) favor. But hey, today is a new day, imagine the Mein Kampfs that could be written… (oh god…)

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        My grandma immediately thought it was an alliance between Japan and Israel to destroy America. We had to explain to her that Osama bin Laden was neither Jewish nor Japanese.

      • It’d be really cool to get paid just to study the thinking of Right wing, fringe groups and how their beliefs evolve. It’s the near-constant spontaneous production of new ideology in real time.

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          It’s one of those weird things that sometimes I feel like I have arcane knowledge of… when I explain this stuff to people I feel like they probably either think I’m making it up or, probably a legitimate thing to wonder, ask themselves why the fuck I know these weirdos inside and out. I, too, wish I knew that…

          as I get older I notice I like to play like “the archivist” role and just recount the most insane shit I read online 20 years ago. Can’t wait until my niece and any other kids my brother might have are old enough to hear their insane uncle tell them about turn of the century Nazi memes

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        2 months ago

        Thanks for the info. I was actually out of the loop on some of that.

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      I thought it was known or suspected that Israel had a role in financing or at least allowing 9/11 to happen, since it gave them an excuse to further crack down on Palestinians?

      I could be totally wrong, but regardless, Saudi Arabia I think played the largest role.