So here is my dilemma. We import all food and goods, too small for agriculture. Our main economy is built on financial services and tourism mostly. Our social safety net and most of our let’s say, liberal left leaning policies are being eroded as time goes by, which is not ideal, but is still better than nothing I guess.

However, since we trade our service based economy for essentially everything else, how does socialism help a nation so dependent on the world around it being capitalist to survive?

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    It’s exactly this type of nation that socialism can help, by empowering national development, changing the logic of how the country works internationally, the issue is that it’s always a traumatic experience the post revolutionary situation. And the change will not come by vote, so if you believe that Marxism can change things the only way to change things is to find an organization and join them or create one. It’s not an easy job but its the only one that can be done

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      I understand where you are coming from. It just seems so impossible in current world climate. Let alone such a high GDP for it’s small size, with little to no influence in world affairs. Nothing material to offer for trade other than a service based economy, I doubt we would survive. Bigger nations have the added advantage on just self sufficiency to survive. We literally dont have sapce for agriculture or any industry.

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          To avoid confusion I’ll say it -Gibraltar.

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            I didn’t make any comments guessing it was Gibraltar, but honestly I had a suspicion it was Gibraltar. I would recommend that you look into urban agriculture, generally keep reading theory and reading local history and news and interacting with your local environment, and learning about regions similar to Gibraltar. Gibraltar may have virtually no industry now, but I wouldn’t be so sure that this will always be the case. A fun game you might want to try is to take something you know to be true, imagining that it’s somehow become the opposite, setting a time frame for this change, and then trying to imagine how this change came to be.

            By the way, were you worried that mentioning you were from Gibraltar would trigger a discussion about the conflict surrounding Gibraltar’s status? I definitely have semi-informed things to say about that topic, but I don’t know if now’s the right time.

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              “By the way, were you worried that mentioning you were from Gibraltar would trigger a discussion about the conflict surrounding Gibraltar’s status?”

              Yes. Pretty sensitive issue for us. If you like to know more about our views, you are welcome to ask.

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          Singapore is a pretty significant petroleum and circuitry exporter. They’re also, you know, not western.

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        I find it puzzling for a country not to have space for neither, what is the source of the economy of the country? Even if its the export of natural resources I would think that processing the resource before exporting should be both viable and desirable. In any case the most effective source of fighting for any postive change is through organized Marxist action, although I know that often said organizations are far from powerful enough right now to do something that’s why its important to expand their ranks