That’d be like saying “The people of the Confederacy did not support the Union invasion”, with “the people” only referencing the white citizens of the Confederacy and not the millions of black slaves, Native Americans, and white abolitionists.
Of course the “people of Tibet” would not be rejoicing at the PLA operation; as those people were part of the 5% of the population that owned the other 95% as slaves. I’m sure that the 95% were distraught they were no longer enslaved against their will.
Also Haiti didn’t have slavery because they themselves wanted it. It was imported on a mass scale from a colonial power. Tibet had slavery because it was baked into their religion and culture with a vile caste system and violent repression.
A country that is built upon 95% of their “citizens” being chattel slaves does not have a right to exist and be tolerated by countries around it, and such a state genuinely should be invaded if the aim of the invasion is to sweep aside a vile system that is keeping millions of people as nothing more then livestock.
Of course the “people of Tibet” would not be rejoicing at the PLA operation; as those people were part of the 5% of the population that owned the other 95% as slaves. I’m sure that the 95% were distraught they were no longer enslaved against their will.
Were there that many slaves?
Also Haiti didn’t have slavery because they themselves wanted it.
Sorry. I was unclear. I was talking about restavèk, which pretty much is “baked into their culture”, or is part of it at least.
I guess the issue here is I don’t really know what sort of economy/structure was in place before 1950, or what motivated the Chinese involvement.
Yes, it sounds absurd, but 95% of the population were enslaved.
The economy was closed off, agricultural based, and in all effect, a self-made hermit kingdom centered around a theocracy of the Dalia Lama.
While this source is Chinese, it is excellently sourced, and should answer essentially every one of your questions. It also details the history of the slavery, and the extent to which it was baked into Tibetan society. Not to mention a population breakdown that adds up to 95% of the population being enslaved serfs, or chattel slaves.
Chinese involvement arose primarily from three facts. The first being that if they claimed to be a socialist country, but allowed a neighboring theocratic country to practice chattel slavery, it would make them immensely hypocritical. The second being that bandits stationed in Tibet would frequently raid and pillage the Chinese countryside bordering Tibet, with these attacks only intensifying as the west sent Tibet arms and money. Finally, the third reason being that Tibet was historically part of China before the breakup in the early 20th century, and incorporating the country back into china made historical sense while freeing its population made moral, economic, historical, and ethical sense.
That is, as pretty much all western media on the topic of China and Tibet, an awful article full of complete nonsense. They throw around bullshit buzzwords like “occupation” and “forced collectivization” that betrays either a total ignorance or purposeful and malicious distortion of the history and status of Tibet in the PRC. But as you yourself recognize even they cannot help but admit that over 95% of the population of Tibet were essentially enslaved and that the fairy tale image of pre-liberation Tibet that has been sold to westerners is a crock of shit. And yet the CIA funded “free Tibet” crowd are even lying about that and trying to claim that that history is all “Chinese communist propaganda”. So ask yourself, why should anyone believe anything else they say about Tibet?
This old article (1974) from the US neoconservative outlet National Review made the rounds here a few months ago and speaks to the point of western misinformation. Even these diehard anti-communist neocons admit that the Chinese government and CPC were working with the Tibetan state throughout the 1950s to improve conditions for Tibetans, but US meddling forced more drastic action on the behalf of the CPC. The Dalai Lama has been in the pocket of the CIA ever since 1959, if not even before. A spiritual precedessor to Juan Guaidó, if you will.
The additional irony is that the Pax America who demand the return to slavery had used slavery as a justification for violation of sovereignty, mass murder, and other atrocities in countries of color. Pax Americana also continued the enslavement, torture, unethical experimentations, mass rape, mass murder, cannibalism, mass savage indoctrination, and inheritance thief in Indian Reisdential fake schools that the Aboriginal parents were tricked into funding under the lies that their children are receiving high quality education, luxurious living conditions, and guarentee to be elites of European diaspora societies even after the Cold War. The Indigenous people in British diaspora is still enduring forced imprisonment in harsh barren wasteland, concentration camps, planned starvation, planned chemical attacks, overdue reparation for thief, and fake news slander that are worst than the slanders against Donald Trump. The fake news criticism that the Western European diaspora made towards the Indigenous people is a projection of the Western European immigrants like how the criticism towards Communist countries tend to be projects of Pax Americana.
That’d be like saying “The people of the Confederacy did not support the Union invasion”, with “the people” only referencing the white citizens of the Confederacy and not the millions of black slaves, Native Americans, and white abolitionists.
Of course the “people of Tibet” would not be rejoicing at the PLA operation; as those people were part of the 5% of the population that owned the other 95% as slaves. I’m sure that the 95% were distraught they were no longer enslaved against their will.
Also Haiti didn’t have slavery because they themselves wanted it. It was imported on a mass scale from a colonial power. Tibet had slavery because it was baked into their religion and culture with a vile caste system and violent repression.
A country that is built upon 95% of their “citizens” being chattel slaves does not have a right to exist and be tolerated by countries around it, and such a state genuinely should be invaded if the aim of the invasion is to sweep aside a vile system that is keeping millions of people as nothing more then livestock.
Were there that many slaves?
Sorry. I was unclear. I was talking about restavèk, which pretty much is “baked into their culture”, or is part of it at least.
I guess the issue here is I don’t really know what sort of economy/structure was in place before 1950, or what motivated the Chinese involvement.
Yes, it sounds absurd, but 95% of the population were enslaved.
The economy was closed off, agricultural based, and in all effect, a self-made hermit kingdom centered around a theocracy of the Dalia Lama.
While this source is Chinese, it is excellently sourced, and should answer essentially every one of your questions. It also details the history of the slavery, and the extent to which it was baked into Tibetan society. Not to mention a population breakdown that adds up to 95% of the population being enslaved serfs, or chattel slaves.
Chinese involvement arose primarily from three facts. The first being that if they claimed to be a socialist country, but allowed a neighboring theocratic country to practice chattel slavery, it would make them immensely hypocritical. The second being that bandits stationed in Tibet would frequently raid and pillage the Chinese countryside bordering Tibet, with these attacks only intensifying as the west sent Tibet arms and money. Finally, the third reason being that Tibet was historically part of China before the breakup in the early 20th century, and incorporating the country back into china made historical sense while freeing its population made moral, economic, historical, and ethical sense.
http://za.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/zt/12/200903/t20090319_7636208.htm#:~:text=However%2C serfs and slaves%2C who,marriage of serfs and slaves.
Thanks. I found this article saying something similar: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/tibet-china-feudalism
Going offline now. Take care.
That is, as pretty much all western media on the topic of China and Tibet, an awful article full of complete nonsense. They throw around bullshit buzzwords like “occupation” and “forced collectivization” that betrays either a total ignorance or purposeful and malicious distortion of the history and status of Tibet in the PRC. But as you yourself recognize even they cannot help but admit that over 95% of the population of Tibet were essentially enslaved and that the fairy tale image of pre-liberation Tibet that has been sold to westerners is a crock of shit. And yet the CIA funded “free Tibet” crowd are even lying about that and trying to claim that that history is all “Chinese communist propaganda”. So ask yourself, why should anyone believe anything else they say about Tibet?
This old article (1974) from the US neoconservative outlet National Review made the rounds here a few months ago and speaks to the point of western misinformation. Even these diehard anti-communist neocons admit that the Chinese government and CPC were working with the Tibetan state throughout the 1950s to improve conditions for Tibetans, but US meddling forced more drastic action on the behalf of the CPC. The Dalai Lama has been in the pocket of the CIA ever since 1959, if not even before. A spiritual precedessor to Juan Guaidó, if you will.
https://shugdensociety.wordpress.com/2010/07/03/a-myth-foisted-on-the-western-world/
The additional irony is that the Pax America who demand the return to slavery had used slavery as a justification for violation of sovereignty, mass murder, and other atrocities in countries of color. Pax Americana also continued the enslavement, torture, unethical experimentations, mass rape, mass murder, cannibalism, mass savage indoctrination, and inheritance thief in Indian Reisdential fake schools that the Aboriginal parents were tricked into funding under the lies that their children are receiving high quality education, luxurious living conditions, and guarentee to be elites of European diaspora societies even after the Cold War. The Indigenous people in British diaspora is still enduring forced imprisonment in harsh barren wasteland, concentration camps, planned starvation, planned chemical attacks, overdue reparation for thief, and fake news slander that are worst than the slanders against Donald Trump. The fake news criticism that the Western European diaspora made towards the Indigenous people is a projection of the Western European immigrants like how the criticism towards Communist countries tend to be projects of Pax Americana.