• Mzuark
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    64
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    Seeing zionists online defend this is surreal because I don’t think they comprehend that Iran is fully within their rights to declare war on Israel. It’s like they’ve convincied themselves that they’re invincible.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      41
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      I think that’s exactly what it is. Israel is basically used to be able to do whatever they want with impunity. I think they actually want to expand this to a war with Iran because that would force US to get directly involved. From everything I’ve read, it looks like the whole Gaza campaign is a huge debacle. They failed to achieve any strategic goals, they lots a lot of troops and equipment, their economy is now suffering because of the blockade by Yemen and due to the fact that they had to mobilize a bunch of people. Now, they’re finding themselves in a war of attrition in a dense urban environment, and their army is not really built for that.

      I think it’s the same logic Ukraine had earlier own where they kept hoping that they could create some kind of a provocation that would force NATO to go all in. The difference is that Israel has a much better chance of actually achieving that.

      • Mzuark
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        3 months ago

        Plus no one actually likes Ukraine. They tolerate them because it’s a good weapon testing ground buffer for Russia. Whether or not Israel is well liked is irrelevant because the money’s still flowing both ways.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          Exactly, the west is just cynically using Ukraine in a proxy war, but Israel has real leverage over the west.

      • Anarcho-Bolshevik
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        3 months ago

        Is it reasonably possible that Imperial America will leave the neocolony to fend for itself?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          Israel is basically the last bastion US has in the region, if it falls then Iran will become the dominant power. At the same time it’s hard to say whether US even has the capability to go to war with Iran at this point.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      34
      ·
      3 months ago

      While it pales in comparison to the horror of what’s happening, I have to admit that I’ll be taking a kind of grim ragged pleasure at seeing them actually snap as they realize they aren’t.

    • darkcalling
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      3 months ago

      It’s like they’ve convincied themselves that they’re invincible.

      Makes sense to me.

      The US is actively covering for their genocide at the UN and arming them to conduct it.

      They have nuclear weapons and have blackmailed the entire region plus insinuated in threats that they would nuke western cities if their occupation fell in retaliation.

      They are strategically important to the US and have been a bipartisan agreement for decades. The US plans to use Taiwan in a war against China in the near future, if they abandon important partners like the zionists their pawns in Taiwan may notice and resist being used that way.

      Biden is a known zionist. Trump will also support them they believe and not without cause.

      They have a huge, powerful lobby and the anti-semitism card which has given them dominance of the western and in a real way global media.

      Facebook is viciously censoring and suppressing the truth about the genocide of Palestinians by the zionists as well as any criticism.

      Most gulf states are run by those in the US orbit and wouldn’t dare to do anything to help.

      All of it adds up to the fact that they have a reason to think this way, many reasons.