Ukraine’s population in 2021 was about 43 million, currently, it says that population is 36 million.

This is of course the most optimistic data they have, this is nowhere near truth, let’s look at facts.

Officially, there is 8,1 million migrants, even Wikipedia says this, so that’s instantly 35 million, then the annexations of 4 Oblasts by Russia: Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson. From data from 2020, Donetsk Oblast had a population of 4,132 million, Lugansk Oblast 2,136 million, Zaporizhzhia Oblast 1,687 million and Kherson Oblast 1,028 million, when we combine those numbers, we get a number of about 8,483 million, and than we have 27 million!

And this is not counting those who died or missing and idk if they even properly counted Crimea in Russia in population census.

So in short, Ukraine went from a population of about 43 million to less than 27 million in 1 YEAR and UN projects that it will never recover, it seems that phrase to the last Ukrainian is really true, to think that this could have been avoided for them if clown just signed to give Donbas, not join North Atlantic Terrorist Organization and preserve neutrality…

  • @cfgaussian
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    You forget that there was one additional condition that the Russians demanded which the Kiev regime as it has existed since 2014 could never fulfil. They may have agreed to not be part of NATO, they may have agreed to neutrality, and maybe with the appropriate international pressure even recognized Crimea as Russian and given autonomy for the Donbass, but the one thing they could never and would never have done is denazify. At this point the post-Maidan conception of Ukrainian national identity is inextricably tied to Nazi collaborator worship, Russophobia and anti-communism.

    No, the de-nazification was always going to have to be done by force, the Banderite cancer that the US has fostered in Ukraine since 1991 has metastasized to a point where much of the society, and certainly since the Maidan coup the state apparatus, have become psychologically incapable of letting go of the myths and the hatred that they’ve built their new national identity on. Not without a major shock to their collective consciousness like a crushing and devastating defeat and total destruction of their country like what the Germans experienced in 1945.

    This is a very sad and unfortunate fate and it didn’t have to be this way, if the US wasn’t so dead set on fulfilling the old imperial German geopolitical scheme hatched during WW1 of ripping Ukraine away from Russia and turning it into an anti-Russian client state.

    • @Kirbywithwhip1987OP
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      Same thing with whole Eastern Europe, nazis and nazi collaborator worship won’t stop until it’s crushed by force.

      • @Shrike502
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        Technically it even infected Russia, with many ongoing attempts to whitewash white movement leaders (pun not intended). Ya know, the likes of Denikin. Some were name-dropped by Putin in a speech as “people who dreamt of nothing more than to make Russia great”.

        Unlike the others, however, our government recognises the need to pay lip service to Soviet legacy and thus cannot go full fash worship immediately. We’ll see how it goes, although I am not optimistic

    • @DesiDebugger
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      At this point asking ukraine to denazify is like asking America to decolonize.