This is a thought that I have been tackling for quite a while now, but in the event of a country or region undergoing decolonialization, how should settler populations, especially multigenerational populations, be handled?

For example in the example of Israel, once the nation is reestablished as a one state Palestine, what would happen to the settler population? Especially those that aren’t living or participating in illegal settlements or exploitation?

This question is complicated farther by multiple generations of people who were born in a location and have no ties to any other country or location. Those people don’t have anywhere to go and can’t be “sent back” to where they came from as they have no ties. For example if a person’s grand parents immigrated decades ago to a country as settlers, and then their children and then grandchildren were born and lived their whole lives in a location, what would you do with those grandchildren? You can’t just throw them back to the country their grandparents were from. This question is made even harder when the generations start spanning back much farther.

Another problem that I am running into is that many solutions including “leftist” ones essentially boil down to ethnic cleaning even if they do not say it outright. Or they completely ignore the question or resort to some fantasy scenario where the settlers magically disappear or all agree to move.

So how should these populations and people be handled?

  • @ComradeSaladOP
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    I do wish to firstly apologize, as I was a bit vague with my descriptions of housing. I fully agree with the ultimate removal of the western suburban model, and I was including all types, locations, and sizes of housing under my definition. So urban apartments all the way to rural homesteads.

    I agree almost entirely with your reasoning regarding housing, however I will offer some minor pushback and advocate for not the complete destruction of the suburb model, but for a massive reduction in its size, and replacement of single family units with large multi purpose dwellings in the style of Soviet housing planning. These “suburbs” would include vital businesses such as pharmacies and grocery incorporated into the buildings so they are within walking range, and for reaching the city they can also be serviced though the use of short-medium range public transportation such as trams, buses, and monorail systems. This would act to reduce significantly the environmental impact of the suburbs while reducing urban congestion and the negative effects of urban sprawl.

    I also fully agree with your sentiment of an organized intersectional rebuilding in a newly socialized society.

    I also agree with the removal of colonial borders, and I while I don’t believe in a “balkanization” there still needs to be an immense reorganization of the current US state system.

    I will however push back slightly on your analysis of equality of individuals, as while there should be significant righting of historical wrongs towards colonized groups, that is not the only distinction that should be taken in mind.

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      The reason why I emphasize nations over individuals is because the primary contradiction in the world is Colonialism, which is by Leninist definition, one nation dominating another. Undoing this contradiction requires equality between nations in the first phases, while later moving to equality between individuals. This is much in the same analysis as equality of individuals from the lower phase of socialism to the higher phase.

      It’s incorrect to believe that the Colonial contradiction is solely enforced by the US government. Colonization occurred in the “private” or “civic” spheres of society, individual or small bands of settlers killing and occupying. Defeating the Colonial state is only defeating the most organized element of the Colonial society, it is only the beginning of decolonization. Colonial domination will still occur if we immediately embrace equality between individuals, why can I say this? Because that is the current structure of the USA, nominal democracy allows the Settler system to reinforce itself under the guise of “freedom” between individuals, while oppression is primarily based on nationality, race.

      The question of equality between individuals is dependent on the equality of nations, individuals cannot be equal if their nations are not equal. The Plurinational constitution of Bolivia is an example of a new foundation of society based on equality between nations.