I’m “debating” a Liberal who thinks “Marx had some valid critiques of capitalism” and “the US has done some bad things” but isn’t great on AES. I sent them the recent post showing that China doesn’t block western media, and they said that it only shows one computer and smart people can get around blocked stuff, and I explained what it actually shows before they said “China is still more authoritarian than the US and my personal freedoms aren’t stopped by my government” (note: all of these are paraphrases, but I don’t think I’ve strawmanned anything). So, what are some solid examples of the average citizens in socialist countries having more “freedom” than in capitalist countries? Edit: Thanks for all the great responses!

  • Large Bullfrog
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    2 years ago

    If you are a mega wealthy capitalist, a cult operator or a basement dwelling crypto-bro then you will indeed find more personal freedom in the US then China. Otherwise the only big freedom™ that people in the US have over people in China that I can think of is with gun policy which of course is hotly debated on whether its a good or bad thing and you could also criticize a number of other western countries for also being strict with.