I’m “debating” a Liberal who thinks “Marx had some valid critiques of capitalism” and “the US has done some bad things” but isn’t great on AES. I sent them the recent post showing that China doesn’t block western media, and they said that it only shows one computer and smart people can get around blocked stuff, and I explained what it actually shows before they said “China is still more authoritarian than the US and my personal freedoms aren’t stopped by my government” (note: all of these are paraphrases, but I don’t think I’ve strawmanned anything). So, what are some solid examples of the average citizens in socialist countries having more “freedom” than in capitalist countries? Edit: Thanks for all the great responses!
Can’t they drink in public there? Can’t do that here without a possible PI. I’m sure there are tons of small examples like that, and I honestly think those more individual freedoms are going to be more convincing to people in the US than political structures. Show them that collectivism doesn’t hinder individual rights unless those “rights” harm others kinda thing.
First time I ever visited China I was invited on a pub crawl with a bus. I get on the bus and the driver hands me two beers from a cooler, fun times were had. Would never happen here in Canada where even having a beer in the park is risking a ticket