Cheat their ass off in HOI4/Kaiserreich just to see the map go red?

I’m not megamind enough to “get” grand strategy, especially Paradox games. I just like to bump production to 10,000% and form the United Socialist South American States.

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    2 years ago

    It’s not super megamind, especially HOI4. It’s all about knowing the meta and applying it. As with all games of this scale there’s exploits and minmaxxing the devs overlooked and we use them with great glee.

    I have no idea about the current hoi4 meta as I’m more of an EU4 player but once you know it it gets so much easier. Division composition, priorities, important resources, etc.

    Florryworry for example (best eu4 player, though last I saw he seemed to be struggling a bit lol) conquered the world with Ethiopia of all countries (starts at war with Italy and has very few provinces to defend).

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      I guess personally it may be more of a time invested/what I want to get out of it dichotomy. I think it’s very neat how strategically minded people can be and can come out on top in this games legitly, but even w/ insane cheats it usually takes hours of gameplay to achieve the end state I want anyway, and I have a tendency to get bored of certain nations if they’re not living up to the standards I want them to (like goofy totalist trees or whatever, forming new nations etc.) Got told by a friend once that if I wanted to roleplay I could just play Crusader Kings, but can you install tankie Khruschev to turn Ukraine into Corntopia in Crusader Kings? Checkmate, strategy tankies.

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      Yeah, I think Hoi4 is probably the simplest paradox grand strategy besides maybe stellaris, I’ve played so much EU4 and I can barely get by in that game but Hoi4 I was competent enough to beat the AI in just the first 10-20 hours of playing. I think its mostly to do with understanding templates and production, once you get the hang of that its all mind numbingly easy in singleplayer.

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        Crusader Kings is probably the simplest and easiest to get into. Combat is literally have more soldiers than the enemy stack (for all the different unit types lol). Although in CK3 they removed primogeniture until the end of the game which makes it super difficult to keep your empire intact after your death.

        CK3 is definitely more of a roleplaying game with that change, where they discourage blobbing (@SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml to reply to your comment as well). You can’t really go wrong in CK3, there’s always stuff happening that makes for an interesting game.

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          I think CK2 is quite a bit more difficult than HOI4 because its very RNG based, although CK3 I may agree is probably easier because its dumbed down a lot. Less focus on skilled strategy and more on personal roleplay. Not my cup of tea, but yes probably quite simple. I still wouldn’t say CK2 is easier than HOI4, there’s just a whole lot of systems and a whole lot of RNG.

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            Really? I struggle with HOI4 because I’ve never looked at the meta, but I have no problems in CK2 – and CK3 is even easier barring the primogeniture decision paradox made.

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              I’d say so, for a beginner the sheer amount of luck takes away control from the player, in Hoi4 you have the option to railroad the AI to always do the same things every time, allowing you to better learn the game and react accordingly, as an example.