With all the western media outlets declaring that Russia has all but been defeated, I’m wondering if the situation is really all that grim over there. Are the Ukranazis really winning?

  • @RedSquid
    8•2 years ago

    Many are of the opinion that New Atlas got this one wrong, the Russians did not have a sufficient defence in the area, and they gave it up rather than be overwhelmed, leaving many civilians to the ‘mercy’ of the Nazis. It wasn’t some sneaky master plan, just a lack of boots on the ground to hold the area. If I understand right, the forces that had been holding Balakleya and Izyum for quite a while were armed police units (SOBR, Rosgvardia) not army, which is kinda bad, but a consequence of the limits of the “SMO”.

    Some telegrams today are reporting rumours or something (I dunno, can’t access Russian media in my country cause ‘free speech’) that the duma is gonna declare an “Anti-Terror Operation” in the Ukraine, which is legalese for what they did to Chechnya. But that’s also counter to what New Atlas said.

    In other words, people feel like that vid is a bit copiumy.

    • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭MA
      6•2 years ago

      I see, thank you. I was mostly focusing on the “no, this doesn’t mean that Ukraine is ‘winning’” part. Certainly, either way, it’s irresponsible to leave these areas knowing what was done in Bucha.

      • @NothingButBits
        6•2 years ago

        But is he right that Ukraine has been suffering tremendous losses in these last offensives? If so, isn’t there a clear parallel between the Kharkov offensive and the Ardennes offensive?

      • @Shrike502
        5•2 years ago

        it’s irresponsible to leave these areas knowing what was done in Bucha.

        Some more cynical people I know IRL (Marxists mind you) suspect such a development is not irresponsible or accidental, but very much desired. The “filtration” of local civilians by UAF and USS will serve to embitter the people against the government.