• @Shrike502
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    Russia has the best air defense in the world

    Those systems are indeed good, but as a Russian citizen I am still mildly sceptical. Don’t forget - capitalist corruption runs deep, military is no exception. And while the data from the most recent flare-up in Karabakh is likely overblown by NATO copers, it does look like there were issues with the AA systems like Pantsir.

    • @cfgaussian
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      Anything is possible i guess. But afaik even the Pentagon acknowledges they have a healthy respect for Russian air defense. Not that familiar with the Pantsir system but the S-400 and the state of the art S-500 are generally regarded as some of the best ground-to-air systems in existence, plus Russia has extremely good radar coverage and surveillance satellites.

      Of course these haven’t yet had the chance to be field tested against a full scale NATO air army so you never know how they will perform under such a stress test. I hope we don’t have to find out. The military industry is the one part of the old Soviet industries that was the least affected by capitalism, it was not privatized to the same degree as everything else, so i am hopeful.

      • @Kirbywithwhip1987
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        S-400 and S-500 can literally massacre(yes that is the correct word to use) NATO jets lol. We in Yugoslavia got F-117 new and most modern ‘‘invisible’’ in 1990s with Soviet anti-aircraft system from 1960s, lmao imagine what would happen today with S-400 and S-500… On one hand, I don’t want war, especially not that catastrophic, on the other hand, I’d like to see them falling from the sky like flies while burning in pieces for all they did to my country and 100+ others in the past 70 years…

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          And they also have S-550 systems which are apparently for intercepting missiles if i’m not mistaken.

          The Americans are really freaked out by these things, i remember reading somewhere recently that apparently because they are so effective the only plan the Americans have to try and hit Russia if it comes to a direct conflict with possibility of going nuclear is to just throw everything all at once Hamas style and hope that at least a few make it through Russia’s air defense.

          Russia on the other hand has those brand new Sarmats which go around the entire globe and can strike from the unprotected south of the mainland USA.

          So i can understand why the US has been in a panic and scrambling to expand NATO, including into the Arctic, to get its missiles and missile defenses as close as possible.