Thoughts?
Don’t agree with his assessment at all pretty much, but still interested what yous think about that stance, because really I’ve not seen much theory based discussion on the topic since the early days of the conflict.
Thoughts?
Don’t agree with his assessment at all pretty much, but still interested what yous think about that stance, because really I’ve not seen much theory based discussion on the topic since the early days of the conflict.
I concede the point of Russia being imperialist, but does that really change the main thrust of my position. Does changing it from Imperialist war to Capitalist war change what I am talking about? If not then it’s a moot point. We still shouldn’t support either because we are communists we don’t support capitalist countries throwing the working class at one another for their ploys.
Again, you are assuming that every war a capitalist country makes must necessarily be nefarious, which is a false premise. Also, you are equating all nationalisms as equal.
First of all, Russia has every right to cripple the Ukrainian military for killing people in the Donbass region with impunity for over a decade. Neo nazi Ukrainian militaries and paramilitaries have killed about 6k to 10k people. Were you not aware of this?
Secondly, Russian nationalism more than any other country has a proletarian character, with most of the country nostalgic for its soviet past. They have no ambitions other than having a stable border country that isn’t going to keep killing russian-speaking civilians, as Ukraine has been doing.
This “we don’t support any capitalist war!” is a baby-level take, only possible by completely ignoring the different interests, types, and histories of the countries involved. The “working class” of Ukraine still has a nazi / banderist government that keeps sending troops into the donbass.
The US has couped dozens of capitalist countries who go against US interests. The retaliation of those countries is wholly justified.
Are you serious all you have done is fallen into the camp of one capitalist country against the other which is not a position a communist should hold. “Baby level take” Okay read this then https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/themilitant/socialist-appeal-1939/v03n21/lenin.htm it still applies to this day. Revolutionary defeatism is the only line that any communist should take during capitalist wars.
So you would also have called for the revolutionary defeat of Iraq, Afganistan, Chile, Venezuela, Grenada, Ethiopia, Syria, Libya?
All of these are / were predominantly capitalist countries, attacked by western powers.
So like I said in another comment we must support the causes that weaken imperialism not those that strengthen it. Revolutionary defeatism is employed when the imperialists go to war. I previously yielded the point on Russia being Imperialist, but Preston Maness’ comment and having watched the portion of the video dealing with this question forced me to change my opinion as it seems that Russia is Imperialist by the definition that you use. I do not support the USA’s invasion or attempted coups to make the countries colonies or semi-colonies. I can accept that the byproduct of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine weakens Nato, but in turn it Strengthens Russia. I do not dismiss that the USA is the leading member of the imperialist block, but that does not make Russia anti-imperialist, it’s a rising imperialist power that cooperates with developing countries for its benefit. Remember the game that is being played is one of power politics. We are not players in this game, but we can wreck their game. That is our job whether you accept it or deny it. We are communists and as such we stand with the working class of all countries against Capitalism in all its forms. Picking a side in this imperialist conflict is nothing but campism and attempting to equate this imperialist struggle with the struggle of colonized countries for their self-determination from the largest imperialist power is not the same thing. Comrade, it’s really time for some self-criticism; analyze and go over Lenin, Stalin, and others who have dealt with this topic before. I do not claim to know everything, but I don’t think continuing this comment thread will be of help to anyone. If you wish to continue this even after all I’ve said, make a substantial criticism of my position. If you are correct I will change my opinion if not I will not reply. Have a good one comrade.