At least 962 Azov nazis who were blocked underground at Azovstal have unconditionally surrendered to Russia and DPR forces. They were out of food and wounded, so they had no other option. There are several british and american citizens among the surrendered it seems. The wounded are taken to hospitals in the DPR and treated. The nonwounded are directly taken to military prisons in Rostov, Russian Federation. Today the Russian Duma (Parliament) will discuss approving a law banning the prisoner exchange of Azov nazis. Nuremberg 2 COMING SOON!

UPDATE: DPR President Denis Pushilin announced that Azovstal, unlike other damaged industrial plants in the DPR, will not be rebuilt and will be demolished instead. Its simply too damaged to be rebuilt. A park for children may be possibly built there (its speculation for now). Stalin would cry if he saw this 😭😭

UPDATE 2: Meanwhile Azov Something is ignoring these news and coping about the next “Ukraine will collapse the entire russian military tomorrow trust me bro” he read on Twitter. I wonder why 🤔🤔🤔 Time to brigade, lets ask his fanbase en masse what they think about this new development! https://youtube.com/c/AdamSomething

UPDATE 3: DPR announced that in total 1750 Azov nazis have surrendered at Azovstal for now! 🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀

UPDATE 4: Today the trial of the neonazis will begin in Rostov, Russian Federation! A neonazi of the Aidar Battallion will be the first one to appear in court! YESSSSSSS

    • @SaddamHussein24OP
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      I know this is kind of a meme but we should keep in mind that the US didnt loose in Iraq or Afghanistan. Iraqi socialism was destroyed and shock therapy neoliberalism imposed, which together with US troops persists in Iraq to this day. Sectarian violence was created which continues to this day and greatly weakens Iraq, benefitting only the US. In Afghanistan too the US won. They occupied the country for 20 years, killed millions and made millions for Lockheed Martin and others. It is true that the afghan people had remarkable success resisting against a much stronger US military, but we must remember that the only reason the Taliban were able to liberate Afghanistan and destroy the US puppet government was because the US CHOSE to leave, since they wanted to concentrate forces against Russia and China in Ukraine and the South China Sea. While the crushing victory of the Taliban against the Ghani Regime was definetely humiliating for the US, i think calling it a US defeat is too optimistic. In the end they got what they wanted, and the Ghani Regime collapsing doesnt weaken their position that much. Afghanistan is still a wartorn mess (albeit it will certainly get better now that the US is gone) and afghans are still starving. Same for iraqis. The US won those wars. Ukraine is the only war they are actually losing for the first time since 1991, which is why they are screaming so much about it. I think its important to keep this in mind in between memes.

      • @Rafael_Luisi
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        While i do not like saddam Hussain, Iraq would be better now if he was able to win the war.

        • @SaddamHussein24OP
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          What do you mean “you dont like Saddam”? Saddam Hussein was literally a scientific socialist, antiimperialist and antizionist. He collectivized agriculture, nationalized all industry, greatly expanded workers rights, created mass organizations and unions to organize the iraqi working class, was a close ally of the USSR and an uncompromising opponent of Israel. He was a close friend of Fidel Castro and Kim Il Sung, who greatly praised the Baath Partys scientific socialist policies. He was very based, what are you talking about?

          • @Rafael_Luisi
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            Ive seem a lot of people here on GZ divided on their opinions about him, a lot of people says he was an anti communist radical and an us puppet that got backstabbed when he started to make his country independent from the US. Ive seem a lot of anti imperialists who like him, so i am in doubt. Do you have any good sources on him?

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              The people who say that slanderous shit about Saddam are simply ignorant. They bought into western and iranian propaganda. Saddam Hussein was a baathist. Baathists arent anticommunists, baathism was literally founded by a syrian communist (Michel Aflaq) who believed marxism leninism couldnt be just copied from the Soviet Union and pasted onto the arab world, it needed to be adapted to the material conditions of arab countries. Baathism came out of this. Baathism is basically marxism leninism +panarabism. They believe that the working class must seize power led by a vanguard party and establish socialism, and later on as classes disappear communism will be reached. Basic marxism. Panarabism is the belief that all the arab speaking countries, from Morocco to Iraq, are 1 nation that was divided by colonialist powers. Baathists want to unite all arab countries under one socialist republic. Baathists also believe in multi party democracy along with a vanguard party. This means that 1 party, the Baath Party, will lead the government but other parties will also be allowed as long as they arent reactionary. This includes communists, and in fact coalition governments of baathists and communists were formed both in Syria and Iraq (and in Syria its still like this).

              However it is true that there was persecution of communists in Baathist Iraq. Why is this? Well we must understand the history of the Iraqi Communist Party (ICP). In its recent history, the ICP has been a very opportunistic party. The earliest example of this is the Ramadan Revolution of 1963 in Iraq. This revolution toppled the military dictatorship of Abdul Karim Qasim, a general who had come to power after the 1958 Revolution which toppled the UK puppet monarchy of Iraq. Qasim wasnt a communist, however he did cooperate with the USSR as a wedge against the british who were angry that he toppled their puppet. For this reason the ICP cooperated with Qasim. Nevertheless, Qasim did no meaningful reforms that were demanded by the iraqi people. No land reform, no nationalizations, nothing. He was just enriching himself. So the Ramadan Revolution happened and he was toppled by the baathists and nasserists (another strand of arab socialism). But instead of supporting this popular revolution, the ICP chose to side with Qasim against the iraqi workers. All of this just so they could use Qasim as a wedge to weaken the baathists and nasserists and also to please Khrushchev. This is a clear example of ICP being opportunistic.

              The Ramadan Revolution is also important because the myth of “Saddam being a US puppet” comes from here. And yet, the source of this myth is a literal CIA puppet. King Hussein of Jordan, a UK and US puppet, claimed that the Ramadan Revolution was orchestrated by the US. This was cheap slander against the baathists who rightfully denounced him as a reactionary. So, the leaders of this revolution were Ahmed Hassan al Bakr and Saddam Hussein (baathists) and the Arif brothers (nasserists). As further evidence of baathists not being anticommunists, Bakr said in front of the international reporters covering the events that “Despite the brutal fighting between us and communists, we are not anticommunist, we oppose anticommunism. We just fought them because they took up arms in counterrevolution. We hope for cooperation with the communists”.

              So in the end the Arif brothers took over and persecuted the baathists, becoming a bureoucratic reactionary government like the Qasim regime themselves. For this reason in 1968 another revolution occured. This one finally brought the baathists to full power, allowing them to start their ambitious socialist program. They began land reform, nationalization and creation of mass organizations. They sought help from the USSR to do this and became one of their closest allies in the Middle East. In 1972 they signed a Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation with the USSR. This treaty allowed soviet troops to be stationed in Iraq. They were there until the USSR ceased to exist in 1991. Most of iraqs weapons were soviet and east bloc, supplied by the USSR. Also in 1972 an agreement was reached and the ICP and kurdish political parties were invited into the government by the baathists. Autonomy was also granted to Iraqi Kurdistan (this debunks another myth that Saddam genocided kurds). In the 1970s relations between the baath party and the ICP were good.

              However in 1980 the Iran Iraq War, caused by Iran trying to topple the “infidel secularist baathist regime” (as Khomeini called them) for no reason, began. At this time, the ICP again showed their extreme opportunism. They began organizing antigovernment protests and calling for regime change. They hoped to use the war to overthrow the baath party and seize power for themselves. So ofc they were expelled from the government and rightfully repressed. But again, as proof that Saddam wasnt anticommunist, a minor proSaddam faction of the ICP was again invited into the government in the early 90s and allowed to operate. During the 1991 Gulf War the ICP tried again, together with kurdish and shia islamist political parties, to do regime change. How is that okay? You are being invaded by the imperialist US and instead of defending your socialist government you try to do a revolution? Very opportunistic. It got even worse during the 2003 Iraq Invasion when the ICP actively collaborated with US forces and refused to participate in or endorse the resistance. Indeed, the ICP was very happy to collaborate with the invaders in exchange for minor government posts and the legalization of the party. This is exactly why noone in Iraq likes the ICP, they are opportunists. The real opposition to the US in Iraq nowadays comes from proIran shia militias like Hezbollah who actually do something. I think this explains well why the ICP was repressed by Saddam.

              Now on sources, ill link a good introductory video on baathism and a couple good books that go more in depth:

              Introductory video on baathism:

              https://youtu.be/ufJzwzdM8sE

              In depth analysis of the material conditions of Iraq and the 3 main leftist movements that sprang out of it (communists, nasserists and baathists) by a palestinian communist:

              https://it.es1lib.org/book/5878025/b0ce15

              More general book on the different strands of arab leftism:

              https://it.es1lib.org/book/5830888/a9c87d

              • @Rafael_Luisi
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                Thats very nice, you should make an mega post here about Saddam.

                • @SaddamHussein24OP
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                  Good idea! Although i dont have time now, but another day sure.

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              Also to debunk another common myth, no the US didnt “support Saddam against Iran” in the Iran Iraq War, thats iranian propaganda. The truth is the US supported both sides in that war, which makes sense since both sides were antiimperialist and antizionist, thus US enemies, so them killing and weakening each other benefitted the US greatly. The US sold chemical weapons and also gave satellite intelligence to Iraq while they also secretly sold many weapons to Iran (Iran Contra scandal). Israel also sold weapons and spare parts to Iran (Iran was fully stocked with israeli weaponry from the shah so they needed spare parts) and trained the special forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Also contrary to this myth, Iraqs biggest supporter in the Iran Iraq War wasnt the US, but the USSR and its allies. Pretty much all socialist and antiimperialist countries supported Iraq in that war (except a few who were neutral like Romania, Yugoslavia, Albania and China). East Germany, USSR, Czeckoslovakia, Bulgaria, Poland, Cuba, they all supported Iraq. The exceptions were North Korea, South Yemen, Libya and Syria, who supported Iran for different reasons. I think this clearly debunks this myth.