Today i had the misfortune of encountering a western “leftist” on Twitter. He stans Podemos (a spanish demsoc party, very liberal and proNATO, they are now in a coalition government with the socdems and they love Zelenski). We discussed the Ukraine War and Russia. I thought he would do the typical “ok the US and NATO are very bad, but Russia is bad too!” so i brought up the NATO invasions of Yugoslavia and Libya to show how the west is manufacturing consent now with Ukraine just like they did with Yugoslavia and Libya, which i assumed he would say were bad. Well the motherfucker goes and says “akchually those invasions were good, we stopped genocides and evil dictators”. WTF. How are these people “leftists”? They are straight up NATOist warhawks. How is this “the left” now? And this is in Europe, where the left is much stronger than in the US! I cant stand this. HOW IS THIS “LEFTISM”? Im so angry right now, what a piece of shit human being, defending imperialist genocides while calling himself a “leftist”. He even had the gull of saying “you arent a leftist, you defend genocidal regimes like the USSR, Putin or North Korea, youre a fascist!”. Fucking unbelievable. Ok rant over.
Oh and he also defended finnish and baltic nazis of WW2 and said “bolshevism is just like nazism”. Plus he said holodomor was real and when i showed him that expert historians on the subject like Mark Tauger, J Arch Getty and Stephen Wheatcroft think otherwise, he said “youre wrong, the historical consensus doesnt agree with you”.
“Leftists” in my country are just a bunch of idealistic revisionists. Their so called “leftist” stance are simply reduced to issues of environmental/identity politics. They couldn’t care less about the global south or supporting AES. They are too comfortable leeching off the imperial core’s neocolonialism.
Same here in Spain. A lot of talking about “we must leave NATO and the EU” and “America bad” but then when push comes to shove, like now with the Ukraine War, they all rally behind NATO and support the NATO narrative. The Podemos motherfuckers (which includes the Communist Party, yes its that revisionist, eurocommunism killed it) literally did a standing ovation for Zelenski the piece of shit nazi. We are sending millions of euros in weapons to neonazis, but its ok because russia man bad. Oh whats that, you need welfare to not starve? Sorry, no money left for that. Fucking social fascists. Where are you from?
Finland my fellow comrade. I knew it was coming that Finland were applying to join NATO, but when the announcement came today, the anxiety still hit hard.
The pro-NATO propaganda here have been relentless these past few months and there have been no counter-arguments to NATO in the media, not even from public service. At least I read a letter in one of the newspapers today from the Finnish Peace Union (umbrella org for multiple peace orgs), where the writer heavily criticized the NATO decision and that she had heavily lost trust in public service after all this propaganda.
I think Finland needs to think very hard about allowing NATO to place any kind of weapons systems on their soil and remember what happened when Finland in 1939 refused to take the Soviet concerns seriously about the border being too close to Leningrad considering the Finnish alliance with Nazi Germany. Finland back then was being egged on by the British to adopt the most recalcitrant and stubborn position possible and refuse to negotiate with Stalin or even acknowledge the security concerns were valid. Present day Finland should hope that Putin is as lenient as Stalin was when he let them keep their independence after what the Finns did, or i foresee a world of hurt…
Oh shit. Yeah thats scary man. That bastard (your prime minister) wont even do a referendum. Why let the people decide something that could start a world war right? Peak western democracy. Yeah Finland left is fucked. The based Communist Party is very weak, thanks to the revisionist eurocommunist bastards that destroyed the original one. Honestly i have the feeling that in 1991, when the USSR was gone, Finland returned to pre 1945 fascism and anticommunism. From what ive heard after 1991 historical revisionism, such as that evil USSR attacked Finland for no reason in 1939 and that akchually Finland wasnt nazi at all in WW2, has been promoted by the state and is now mainstream. And now they wanna join NATO too, creating an existential threat for Russia. With nuclear missiles in Finland, the US could strike Moscow and Leningrad in minutes. Our political leaders are so evil, they wanna destroy us all. Honestly with this development Russia would be well in its right to start an immediate special military operation in Finland to create a protective buffer zone or even overthrow the government, tho i hope they dont ofc. Idk what do you think comrade?
NATO even has a requirement that that majority of the population of the applicant should support the decision to join, yet there is no referendum, perhaps this fast-track ratification is what Biden and president Niinistö discussed in Washington in the very early days of the Ukraine conflict? I genuinely would not blame Russia if they were to escalate any action with Finland, as you said, this situation is similar to the background to the Winter War. Finland has had a quite friendly relationship with both the Soviet Union and later on Russia post-WW2 (frequent dialogue with Putin and our presidents, we hosted the Trump and Putin meeting etc) and that is now being thrown away for solely strengthening the Western hegemony. Lenin wrote over 100 years ago that even within the working class movements in what he called “United States of Europe”, there are opportunists that are working towards strengthening Westerm imperialism, and that is exactly what I have experienced in Finland as well. The Left Alliance who said in 2019 during the parliamentary elections that they would not be able to sit in a coalition government if the nation was to join NATO, has now done a complete 180, in the most revisionist manner. Very disappointing, considering the history of this party, that was split from the Communist Party of Finland because the latter was “anti-Stalinist” and anti-Soviet.
Let’s hope that there is no military escalation, but if push comes to shove, I might try to emigrate to Vietnam since I still have citizenship (thanks mom!) there even though I am born and raised in Finland.
You are part vietnamese? BASED! Wait, isnt there in Finland a based communist party tho? The one formed in 1994, which was the prosoviet faction of the original one that became revisionist eurocommunist and antisoviet. Ive heard there is one tho its very weak. Indeed, european “left” are total traitors, they support war with Russia now. I hope there is no escalation over there but there very well may be. Stay safe Comrade!