is this just atrocity propaganda, or was stalin actually a mass murderer? deleting someone from a photograph is not a good sign.

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    Holy shit yezhov was added.

    I’ve been saying for some time now, as somewhat of a thought experiment, that we couldn’t prove he wasn’t added in. Nobody has ever offered me evidence to show he was edited out, so it was just as likely he was added in.

    But looking at the picture on my phone and zooming in, really focusing, I now believe this conclusion.

    He is sandwiched between Stalin and the short wall, literally he would be compressed against it were he actually there. There is no space for him to be standing there. And he doesn’t look like he’s actually there, he’s just looking into the distance while Stalin is giving an actual look at the camera, acknowledging it, while the others are looking at the newly built canal. What would yezhov even be doing there?

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      How do you explain exposure change between the two photos?

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        Could be explained in many ways, the easiest would be whoever scanned the photos into a digital format reworked them… add some exposure on the “after” picture and make the Soviets look scary lol. Or anyone after that, really.

        I also have to ask, was it necessary for the editors to bring up exposure on the original picture? Looking at other photo work it doesn’t seem like it was (Soviets were very good at it and were far from the only ones doing it).

        The overexposed picture is the only one I can find, except for that one on Radio Liberty of all places, which looks completely repainted:

        As none of the websites where I found those pictures say where they found them, who took them, who digitalised them… any guess is as good as any as to why they look different. And if we look at this crispy “before” picture, you can see weird artefacts around Yezhov, like he emits an aura:

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          In that last picture you see the same artefacts around Stalin as well, and around every single one of the individuals here if you look closely. Like, look at all their shoulders, they all have the same “aura”. You want to say that they were bluescreening? Make sure that you don’t see what you want to see. I can’t find a single claim that such erasures did not happen.

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            Where do you see artifacts as prominent as yezhov’s elsewhere? I don’t.

            I can’t find a single claim that such erasures did not happen.

            All of those claims are made without sources from libs. They just take it for granted that Stalin got people erased from pictures. It has become so accepted and internalised that it is not even questioned anymore.

            Yezhov could not fit in that physical space as the picture makes it seem like, I have no reason to believe he wasn’t added in. Maybe ordered it himself to make it seem like he was a big shot around Stalin.

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              Where do you see artifacts as prominent as yezhov’s elsewhere? I don’t.

              I see them right on Stalin’s left shoulder.

              All of those claims are made without sources from libs. They just take it for granted that Stalin got people erased from pictures. It has become so accepted and internaéised that it is not even questioned anymore.

              I wasn’t saying lib sources. I cannot find a single source, even communist one, claiming otherwise.

              Yezhov could not fit in that physical space as the picture makes it seem like, I have no reason to believe he wasn’t added in. Maybe ordered it himself to make it seem like he was a big shot around Stalin.

              So you have visited that exact location?