1. Many libertarians have the same opinions as us on non-economic foreign policies of the West (seeing through “human rights” claims as hypocrisy to justify war that is waged for resources and geographical control, what coups/assassinations/terrorists are ClA ops, etc.) because these are all state activities and they are anti-state, at least in the current form in the West

  2. Blumenthal’s opinions on the situation of vaccines in USA is very libertarian

  3. Clearly not a communist given he has never spoken positively about any AES and never explicitly supported enemies of the West

Yea idk that’s all I got lol

  • @cfgaussian
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    This is a typical anti-vax rhetorical trick. First of all, there is no significant difference in safety and effectiveness of different vaccine types, so mentioning the fact that they are mRNA only serves to scare people who don’t understand what that means.

    Secondly, NO vaccine 100% prevents transmission or infection, what they do is they make transmission and infection much less likely. They significantly reduce the probability, but of course not to absolute zero, hence why people can claim it’s not “prevention”.

    It doesn’t matter whether he is personally vaccinated or not. You can be vaccinated and stil be an anti-vaxxer due to the kind of rhetoric you use that spreads fear, doubt and misconceptions. Advocating against mandates is also a form of anti-vax behavior.

    In order for vaccines to be effective at combatting a pandemic you need to pass a certain critical threshold of percentage population vaccinated, and you will never get those kinds of 90%+ rates that you need without some sort of coercive mechanism.

    • @holdengreen
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      I don’t think it’s responsible to do 90%+ in a country like the US. You are going to get a lot of kicking and screaming and drawing of blood.

      Aim for a lower number combined with strong government action on lock downs, quarantining, tracking and masking.

      btw I am not medically qualified

      • @cayde6ml
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        Doesn’t matter if its “responsible” when lives are at stake and when the science requires it.

        I can mostly agree to that second line.

        • @holdengreen
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          Yes but my understanding is that a lower vaxx percentage, lets say 70-80% can be compensated for by focusing on the other mechanisms that prevent spread. You most likely are going to have a certain portion of the population that is just never going to get vaxxed.

          • @cayde6ml
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            22 years ago

            I didn’t know that, but I figured that’s what you meant. Thank you for the perspective.

      • @cfgaussian
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        It is more unrealistic to expect people in the US to comply with the kinds of lockdowns, mass scale testing and contact tracing that would be required in order to be able to stop the pandemic without overwhelming majority vaccination.

        It would also never happen because the US government is fundamentally unable and unwilling to do those sorts of things. Maas vaccination is already the compromise measure for whiny, entitled westerners and their bourgeois states.

        Yes China was able to maintain zero-Covid with much lower vaccination rates. But no western government could ever do what China did. And even with all that success, we see there are still some problems in China now and then.

        Localized outbreaks can get fairly bad when there is the slightest slip-up. No one can be perfect all the time, so when some local government makes a mistake, it is a big detriment not having those kinds of 90%+ vaccination rates.

        China has been working very hard to make up that vaccination gap especially among the elederly who are paradoxically, one of the demographic groups with the lowest rates of vaccination in China. This is a problem that is being addressed.

      • @Azirahael
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        22 years ago

        You won’t get those either.