First of all, I want to say that it’s wonderful to see all of you here, and your critical support of the nation I proudly call home. But more and more recently, especially reading through Chinese internet too, there has been a sense of overconfidence and overglorification of China. It is honestly a little worrying at times for me, because as much as I love my homeland and is proud of what we are doing, I know full and well that we are still a long way to go. I see this sentiment of China being the glorious land far away as a bastion and utopia against Western Imperialism and while there’s a lot of truth behind that sentiment, and I definitely understand why one not living in China would choose to believe this (I live in the US now and I understand your pain, fellow US comrades). I just want to remind everyone to exercise dialectal materialism on this subject and try to look at China in a less idealised way. We cannot grow to be better without recognising our mistakes. Anyways that is my little message to you all. Have a nice day!

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    3 years ago

    I do not glorify China, but I’m sure it comes across that way when I am defending China and their successes against a lib. There’s just so much shit and propaganda to overcome. Of course China has its flaws, and that’s why people full all across China participate in the CPC.

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      This. There’s so much anti-China rhetoric that you wouldn’t be able to counter that without appearing a bit like glorifying it (and I guess it’s easy to get carried away as well).

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      3 years ago

      Exactly. Good faith and nuanced conversation can only be had between comrades and sane people.

      I have no problem acting like China is utopia (and similar topics) against deranged libs and haters, because their game is pretending like China is total hell. There is no good faith convo to be had with them, give in an inch and you will “lose”. Xi can save 99% of humanity and the moment you admit yes 1% was left out, you just gave control of the narrative to these bad faith actors who will continue to focus on the 1% as they blind everyone from the 99%, fk that.

      Plus when the overall atmosphere is so skewed, you are kind of forced to choose between going extreme or be useless and not getting through to bystanders.

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        I have a sly approach. I follow the conversation and interject leftist related stuff (but they don’t know it) and before long I get them agreeing. Sometimes it backfires with reactionaries.