I’m sorry if this isn’t the place for this, but I’m just so fucking excited.
I was homeless and selling crack less than two years ago, neither of my parents graduated from fucking high-school, and I’m a beaner in America lmao.
The system hates me, I’ve been violently disadvantaged from the knowledge economy, and I know this isn’t really meaningful. Life will still be hard, and the coming collapse of empire will make it ever worse.
But fuck, does it feel good to catch a win sometimes.
The US collapsing won’t ‘suck the whole world into chaos’. China will pick up the pieces from where US collapsed and do a way better job of leading the world than the US ever could. This has been established with most countries already doing business with China.
What exactly do you expect to happen to the roughly 35% of Americans living adjacent to the poverty line, by IMF standards mind you.
Everyone knows the statistic that 70% of American doesn’t have a spare 500 dollars, which is literally nothing here. That’s slightly over a months worth of food for a family; it’s not even an entire months rent for most states.
That’s not what I’m talking about. The guy above me made a dramatic post stating that the entire WORLD would plunge into chaos. Last time I checked, US wasn’t ‘the whole world’.
Okay.
Is chaos not a ladder?
No.
You’re a literal child.
I read this reply, then just moved on. Because I really hoped it was a joke, just a bit of satire I wasn’t picking up on that would make sense to me later. But no, it seems you’re serious.
Your stance here is pure idealism, I can’t even be nice about it. I was always taught to STFU when I can’t think of anything nice to say, so I’ll try my best to not insult you. but, boy howdy that’s a horribly dangerous worldview. It entirely lacks materialism.
The US economy is firmly rooted in a large portion of the world. American Liberalism has been a guiding beacon for a lot of that portion of the world too. There are a lot of countries that haven’t been able to progress because the United States has been such a hegemony that it’s impossible to do anything that goes against American will. Bolivia and Venezuela haven’t been able to work towards Socialism, Korea hasn’t been able to unify, etc.
We can firmly say the collapse of the United States will devastate the European Union, of which many of the major members are indebted to the US. Once the US dollar is rendered obsolete, the value of every currency based on USD will crash. Which happens to be, dare I say, the currencies of almost all of the US’s allies and economic partners. If a series of wars and revolutions don’t happen in Europe as a result of this, I’d eat my hat.
The US is seen as the backbone of NATO, all of NATO’s campaigns will be forced to grind to a halt due to a lack of funding, the possibility of the remaining NATO nations needing their militaries for other pursuits, and other potential factors, likely causing power vacuums in the third world, which themselves will likely cause civil wars.
The bottom line, without the US being able to either support economies, or prevent political movements from gaining support (mind you, I’m not saying I support that, I’m just stating the fact that the US has been manipulating political forces worldwide), a lot of the world is going to have political turmoil too. It will, very likely, be more than China can handle. It will, again very likely, entirely change world maps. It’s highly likely the death of the United States will spell the end of global capitalism, which will radicalize the pro-capitalist forces into fascist ones, and inspire an age of revolutions.
Perhaps there will be a time of unprecedented peace after the US is gone, but it’s very unrealistic to believe the events directly following the event will be anything near peaceful. A lot of good can come from this, but it’s more or less promised that a lot of bad will have to come first. People who live in the Imperial core are going to have a really rough time, the only way a person can believe anything else is if they’re an idealist, who think pixies and unicorn farts are all you need to have lasting peace.
Someone’s projecting big time about being an idealist.
If all of what you said, chaos in the streets because of dollar values and whatnot, was true, we wouldn’t have socialism literally anywhere because of US just being able to press your theoretical ‘capitalism conversion button’ on a whim (imagine having such little agency in the 1940’s), and yet, an AES country is preparing to lead the world economically. It’s almost as if your premise that US controls the world is complete bullshit.
Not only that, but who is really afraid of USA at this point? They can’t even stage a proper coup anymore, look what Venezuela did to one of their pathetic color revolutions. I understand not wanting to underestimate people, but why do you think these incompetent people are really that much of a threat? You act like they can just take away people’s agency on a whim.
I highly doubt any of this political turmoil will overwhelm China, look how they handled COVID-19 compared to the other countries, look how they handled Tienanmen Square. It is my humble opinion that you underestimate China’s organizational capabilities way too much.