The Wall Street Journal warns that the investigation into the Nord Stream pipeline explosions “threatens to fracture support for Ukraine.”

German investigators reportedly believe Kiev was behind the sabotage, specifically pointing to former Ukrainian commander-in-chief Valery Zaluzhny.

According to WSJ sources, an elite Ukrainian military unit carried out the attacks under Zaluzhny’s direct supervision, aiming to deprive Russia of energy revenues and weaken its economic ties with Germany.

The article recalls that suspects have already been detained across Europe and warns of serious fallout if a German trial against Ukrainian nationals begins. Such proceedings could further strain relations with Germany which is Ukraine’s top financial donor and key arms supplier, particularly of air defense systems.

Political pressure is also mounting on Merz, though his circle believes the issue can still be contained domestically. German society, sources say, has largely accepted that Kiev was responsible.

However, WSJ notes, the diplomatic consequences would be far easier for Berlin if investigators hadn’t gathered such compelling evidence against Ukraine. 🤣

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    Germany is so cooked. Its like watching us stuff food in our ears while starving. The country has become so dysfunctional and buerocratic over the years that its tough to see any positive future. Of course as the main vassal in europe, it depends on exploitation of other nations and guidance by the empire but it isnt fun to live in.

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      I never, in my wildest dreams, expected Germany to implode this fast as a result of the war. I was predicting that the EU would fall apart eventually and that the economic war with Russia would backfire, but I thought it would be a decade long process.

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        I mean, its kind of positive to see how fast capitalism eats its children but we do need a solution for the people. Probably best to set up mass neighborhood help centers where people can learn to make their own clothes while unemployed because they will need their money for food and rent.

        Its real easy to see this blow up soon. Just need to spread the word. People just need to become sufficiently self reliant and resilient and they might actually walk to their local government office and demand change.

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          For sure, now is the time to organize. Mutual aid is going to become really important going forward.

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            I’m experiencing this live. I run such a center. Its getting busy now. People need help, community and purpose. Sadly, the local social kitchen is lacking people atm and i have other aid projects that day. I assume we should all engage in at least one local project if we can manage. I guess one big issue will be learned helplessness which we need to overcome through education.

            Is there any theory that pushes mutual aid?

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              Marxist theory fundamentally focuses on combining education with practical on the ground work, which would include mutual aid. Nobody really cares about being preached to in the abstract, but if they’re getting direct material support then they become much more open to education. This is a pretty decent introduction to doing practical mutual aid https://freight.cargo.site/m/D2275728601487376829209345140067/Mutual-Aid-by-Dean-Spade.pdf

              Incidentally, I was talking with some friends just the other day how local online forums could be used as a direct vehicle for mutual aid. We were talking about using something accessible like Lemmy or even just Slack to connect a neighborhood, and it strikes me that this could facilitate building a practical support network.

              Right now, mutual aid often relies on scattered online groups or flyers. But a dedicated local forum that lets people in the community to get to know each other would help build relationships. And then that could act as a searchable hub for solidarity among people who already know each other. You could have “requests” channel where an elderly neighbor could ask for help with groceries, a “skills-share” thread where people offer tutoring or basic repair services, or an “excess resources” board for giving away food or supplies. It formalizes the “I have/ I need” exchange that already happens informally, making it accessible to the whole community.

              It also becomes a system for education. You could have a pinned post explaining the principles of mutual aid and how it’s solidarity as opposed to charity. It could be used as the platform to coordinate tangible projects like community fridges or tool libraries. The fact that everyone is colocated is key because it means the help is immediate and the relationships built online can be solidified in person, creating a resilient community fabric that can respond to both everyday needs and larger crises.

              In a way, you can use online tools to rebuild the kind of tight-knit village support system that globalized life has eroded, but with the efficiency and reach of modern technology. It turns the internet from a space for abstract global conversation into a practical tool for local care and collective survival.

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                Spot on! Thanks comrade. I’ll save that post. Currently walking the woods. Will give it some serious thought.

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          A family member has a nice sewing machine stuffed in their attic. I’ve asked about borrowing it to teach myself to sew several times and they absolutely refuse. It’s frustrating, because several neighbors are paying almost as much for repairs as new cheap fashion and thrifting is barely serviceable for a few months; people are wearing clothes nearly ragged before donating.

          I’m glad you are doing what you can, where you can.

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            Thank you. I have seen people cling to their machines as well without using them. Imo its deep rooted chauvinism that needs to be registered by us. I now have a ledger for people being dicks like this. When I have something to spare, they will be last in line.

            Sorry for the teeth but i really despise the fact that poor people will give on average their last penny while the petite bourgeois will clutch their pearls like the guy in the hobbit. Not your fault, just my poverty trigger.

            Anyhow, I’m doing my best to get people to come to the center and some to help but you can imagine how tough it is. People will positively suck you dry if you let them. Its a huge learning curve to be giving but not being bled out.

            We might profit from a praxis community or discussion where comrades share their actions and experience to inspire others. Maybe i will learn to advertise better for the center, etc.

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              Sorry for the teeth but i really despise the fact that poor people will give on average their last penny while the petite bourgeois will clutch their pearls like the guy in the hobbit. Not your fault, just my poverty trigger.

              There’s no need to apologize, I have definitely been there. Anyway, “according to need” is definitely in order.

              Anyhow, I’m doing my best to get people to come to the center and some to help but you can imagine how tough it is. People will positively suck you dry if you let them. Its a huge learning curve to be giving but not being bled out.

              Lol. Yes I definitely stayed in that way of being about four decades too long! I’ve had plenty of downtime with sporadic bursts of activity, so I’ve spent that time learning my limits, and that “No” is definitely a complete sentence. Believe me when I say people better off than me were the ones who sulked most and longest. They got over it, though.

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                I feel that. It does beg the question if we should share some experiences and tipps on grad, like in general. Because i can imagine a lot of marxists will go like “okay i need to read 500 books and then i communism will be achieved” but have zero idea what to do in between.

                Like, if i’m in school or at my apprenticeship, on a tough job or in an office, what can i do to help?

                My thoughts would be something like:

                • while in school there are limits to your freedom due to parental advisory but if you can manage to go to a neighborhood help center or social kitchen, do that for a couple hours a week
                • when in apprenticeship (grown up) one could imagine there will be a lot of new impressions and such. Maybe helping the local center with propaganda and such would be cool.
                • a tradesman would of course be a godsend for any center but its a tough ask to use your skills for free. Maybe its more of a mentoring role in that case
                • an office person would probably be the most doable but those (i have experience in that regard) often dont help or dont feel like they could. Its tough to get them to become active at all imho.

                And so on and so forth.

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                  Where I am, there are office workers helping out, but it’s usually passing out donated food goods. The issue it seems, is the office people are extremely territorial, like they’re afraid they’ll be replaced or found doing something wrong (but I’ll wager the first).

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        Germanys economy stood on two pillars:

        A big minimum wage sector and cheap energy from Russia. Take away one and the the system crumbles. The former would require the bourgeoisie here become human again - unlikely. The latter just requires some actions by the fifth columns all over Germany and some sabotage.

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      We have economic analysts saying Stuttgart will be like Detroit. Like its over, cut the cameras.

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      ‘Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.’ – NATO’s first Secretary General, Lord Ismay.

      Worked beautifully.

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    Of course it was Ukraine! Had to be. Otherwise it would have to be the one who did fleet exercises there days before the explosions, has the know how to pull it off and the equipment to do it. You know - the USA.

    Joke aside, it obviously was the US. You need a pressure chamber immediately for your divers if they are working in those depths. Ukraine has no ship with one. The US has. Strike one. US ships were doing fleet exercises at the location of the explosions just before it took place. Strike two. And the US stands to profit most from the destruction of North Stream. Strike three.

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      Exactly. Everybody knows it’s the US, but you can’t say that in public so it has to be Ukraine. And amusingly pinning this on Ukraine is now backfiring because because public support for the war is fraying.