• Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I don’t want to scream “obvious feds” too loudly, but why is it every single one of these diaspora subreddits always sound exactly the same? I don’t mean to assume, but every single person there types like how an ignorant white guy would think that a “foreign” guy would type.

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      Tibet was liberated from slavery almost 100 years ago

      Actually it’s more recent than most people think. The Democratic Reform in Tibet-Xizang happened only in 1959, that is less than 70 years ago. There are people still alive who remember the time before. Which is why this whole “Free Tibet” psyop has no chance in Tibet itself. People there have grandparents and great-grandparents who were serfs.

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          that Tibet wasn’t liberated during 1940s.

          That surprised me as well when i first started learning about the liberation of Tibet. I had also initially assumed it happened concurrently with the founding of the People’s Republic. It’s sad that they had to wait ten more years, but at least they got there.

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        In fact, the CPC actually collaborated with the Dalai Lama and Tibetan nobles at the beginning to slowly phase in economic and social improvements in a kind of proto-One-Country-Two-Systems plan. The CPC even gave the Dalai Lama a high position in the Chinese government as a Vice-chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress, and as the chairman of the Tibet Autonomous Region Preparatory Committee.

        Unfortunately, the Dalai Lama and co. got pissed at the loss of their all-powerful privileges and decided to do a CIA-sponsored revolt. Of course, they got no support from any of their serfs, who were quite happy to be free, and so they fucked off to India.

        After that, the CPC had a mandate to speedily implement all the reforms.

        Here’s some good resources:

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          Yes. Very important points. Even people who know the basic history of Tibet in the 20th century are not always aware of how hands-off China was and how much they tried to work with and through the local elites in the period between the Peaceful Liberation and the Democratic Reform. Initially the local elites acted as if they were on board and enthusiastic to work with Beijing on the reforms, but secretly they were smuggling weapons from the British and the Americans.

          It was not the re-integration into China that bothered them, it was the prospect of the abolition of serfdom which was a bridge too far. The few lower class people that they did get to fight for them in the uprising only did so because the elites told them all kinds of lies about the communists and used their religious beliefs to manipulate them. For most people it didn’t work, because once you have seen that it is possible to have freedom and rights it is very unlikely you will want to go back to the way things were.

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    “china bad because tibetans can’t make movies!”

    that’s the most strange accusation against china. something interesting is that they don’t care about the dalai lama either, but china has to be the bady guy anyways

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      Also Tibetans do make movies, just no one in the west seen any because they are mostly in Tibetan language which goes doubly against the western narrative.

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    “Evil CCP censoring Hollywood!”

    Truly delightful that even people in America can’t escape the brutal people’s dictatorship of Communist China. There is hope for us yet.

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    so like… were these all diaspora from the fleeing aristocrat/theocrat class when the theocracy was ousted (obligatory “my recent ancestor had a monopoly on all eggs in china and the see see pee is evil” screenshot, except replace it with “my recent ancestor owned human skin drums of ritual importance”) or…?

    anyway “I cry for freedom thousands of miles away while my country is inhabited by a language that is foreign to us” while congregating on the anglophone webbed site

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      theyre either americans larping or former aristocrats, a comment in the thread straight up says “my people traded the community for better living standards”, as if it was treason lmao. I wonder why these people would trade their community for a better life, its almost as if they werent the ones benefiting from it.

      i cant imagine real tibetans arguing in english in reddit.

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    They don’t even know what they’re fighting for. That’s very telling.