Been looking for an alternative to gmail and out of all the ones I’ve looked at protonmail seems to be the best one.

  • @PP44@lemmy.ml
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    82 years ago

    Depends on your definition of legit : https://lemmy.ml/post/79956

    And as always it depend on your needs. If you need to hide communication within a group of people, you all need to use protonmail, otherwise the mail comes out of protonmail server without more security than any other mail provider (from what I understand).

    If you want to fight centralization of services, protonmail is already really big, and did not create a federated solution to their encryption method, so they are not helping. Then you should find a local, or at least small independent email provider.

    If you just want to be outside of the US, protonmail is great for you.

    If you are a political activist of any sort, and fear your government, then recent history showed that protonmail don’t want to protect you from this kind of intrusion.

    • eisensteinium ☭OP
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      62 years ago

      Alright, thanks! My main concern is getting away from google without going to something like outlook or yahoo, so it looks like a fine solution.

  • @snek_boi@lemmy.ml
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    72 years ago

    I’m on my phone so it’s not as simple to link to evidence, but you or someone else could search it in the meantime.

    As someone else said, ProtonMail sells snake oil. Its handling of keys is not at all appropriate and they rat on activists. This means the privacy anyone may think they have with them is false.

  • mekhos
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    42 years ago

    Take a look at Mailfence too it includes Documents and Calendar. Note that both these will provide IP logs if ordered to by a court in their jurisdiction (Switzerland/Belgium) but if you are after just reduced tracking rather that high level illegal stuffs both are great options.

    • eisensteinium ☭OP
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      42 years ago

      Yeah I heard there’s basically no way to make e-mail secure so I don’t plan on using it for anything sensitive.

  • @ruio1818
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    42 years ago

    It depends what you want/need email for. My view is that you should maximise privacy where you can, but that email should be considered insecure - you can never really be sure that the message you have delivered has passed through SMTP servers in a secure way, there is no contract requiring this in email.

    I wouldn’t use ProtonMail for your day to day email address, in my opinion it’s overkill. I think ProtonMail is well-intentioned, but I also believe a lot of what they have is snake oil - email is fundamentally insecure, and unless you’re using PGP all the time (this is flawed as well as while it’s E2E encrypted, metadata leaks are inevitable due to the way email works with headers describing author, destination, user agent, and other details) you can’t assume the content of your communication is secure.

    I would look into a paid email provider which has good support and a fairly reasonable and reputable commitment to privacy and security. I personally use mailbox.org, which is also very inexpensive; I have heard good things about FastMail, though I have never tried it.

    For secure email, I have heard great things about Tutanota. I would sooner take their word on matters of privacy and security over ProtonMail’s, but again you shouldn’t do this blindly. PGP while a great protocol is not and has never been practical for this kind of thing, it is at best good for signing your messages so recipients can optionally confirm you are who you say you are.

    • eisensteinium ☭OP
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      22 years ago

      Yeah, I’m aiming to maximise privacy but I avoid using email for anything sensitive. I was suspicious about Tutanota since they’re based in a 14 eyes country but after researching some more it fits my needs far better.

      I’ve pretty much accepted that the only truly “secure” communication is between two people whispering to each other in the same room but I would like to reduce my dependency on Google as much as possible.

  • 10_0
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    22 years ago

    yes it is, i use it daily its as covenant as gmail but infinitely more private