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but you’re giving bombs for one side to use on the otherI’ve really gotta hand it to democrats here, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more effective strategy to radicalize progressives
Breeding a new generation of activists that will oppose them for the next 50 years is the best spin I can put on this.
they’ve been doing this since Obama’s 2nd term. Honestly even since the bailout but especially through the 2nd term. And the 2016 primaries radicalized a lot of people too. Now all of Bidenmala’s rightwing policies and genocidal lunacy and ignoring/talking down to and berating protestors and dissenters etc. and furthering this “outside agitator” trope that’s always used by white supremacist government and their pigs to justify crushing protests. They did it for MLK even and Wehrmacht Walz used it when sending in the army to crush the George Floyd uprising in Minneanapolis
The praxis for “I look forward to being executed as a reactionary by the next generation” meme?
they know what they deserve. but they are continually surprised that day of reckoning never comes for them.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen another genocide where the guy doing it describes himself as a friend to the people being genocided or where a genocide would be “less bad” under him as opposed to another genocide. Democrats really are trailblazing new levels of brainrot its astonishing
Eichmann thought of himself as a friend to the Jews iirc from Eichmann in Jerusalem
You recall correctly. And he specifically identified his close relationship with Zionists and getting them Palestine as evidence.
to be fair the israelis do not think this way.
It’s the banality of evil. They are so casual about murder because they never actually see what suffering it creates. It’s like they are wearing mental blinders
Not to draw a false equivalence, but once you notice it here, you notice it everywhere
Engineering students graduating and going to work for Lockheed matin and other defense contractors which report to America and it’s client state Isntreal are truly no better, and I will die on this hill.
The “it’s systemic” discussion ends when you are an integral part of the system.
Yay capitalism!
Their casualness on the issue conveys a lack of urgency to people who are only casually engaged with world news and the presidential campaign. This makes those (rightfully) engaging on the same issue with a sense of urgency seem, to those casuals, shrill and alarmist by comparison. Wouldn’t you want to believe the person calmly reassuring you that issue is being dealt with?
Also anyone notice this little conspiracy theory jab at the end there?
Going for the Muslim ban immediately is smart because it was a good comparison point. But then her answer gets worse from there, talking about defending aid for Palestinian refugees (they wouldn’t need aid and there wouldn’t be refugees if you didn’t keep providing weapons to Israel, and that doesn’t make up for causing a genocide), and then finally ending by hinting it’s not grassroots, but probably foreign actors or something.
“I don’t think it’s all spontaneous. Some of it is grass roots. But some of it is… Something else.”
Ooh, Russia mayhaps, Nancy? Just say it lol.
She’s been doing this for a while now, telling protesters to “go back to China” and shit.
the Muslim ban wasn’t even stopped by dems they did fuck all about it other than finger-wag like always. It was the courts that stopped it; the same courts the federal supreme court of which Obama gave a seat for free to his “good friends across the aisle” and didnt pressure RBG to retire and which Biden refuses to expand or pack and even denounces the idea. And which for lower courts Biden kept on a lot of Trump’s awful appointments ,like that Chevron lawyer who helped defend Chevron’s destruction of Amazon and poisoning natives and helped prosecute Donziger
“outside agitators” to discredit protests and justify repression is old as dirt too; and often racist — they did that against MLK even. Wehrmacht Walz used it to justify sending in the army to crush the George Floyd uprising in Minneanapolis
How many days until they start calling Palestinians “uppity”
One of the most active recent threads about US politics on .ml already have multiple comments calling muslim Americans “stupid” and worse for not wanting to support and vote for government that murders their families and friends.
If Harris loses the election, democrats are going to openly embrace islamophobia and become even more racist.
Harris doesn’t even need to lose. You can browse Everything and see liberals calling them barbaric today. Communities in Lemmy.zip in particular.
Oh definitely, I’m just saying that it’s going to become even more overt and acceptable in “polite company”.
“They say the next one will be sent by a liberal”
And democrats wonder why constantly triangulating makes them look deceitful
“Yes we killed them and we’re sad about that, but don’t they know they need to vote for us otherwise we’ll kill them more, we’re been so magnanimous in their brutal murder I don’t understand this uppityness”
Wait Nancy is still alive? I thought she died already
It’s a little early in the day for philosophising but it is a good question: are the undead ‘alive’ like you and me just because they give the appearance of consciousness?
This is smoothskin chauvinism. Our undead comrades are just as alive as we are and have contributed greatly to our movement.
Mistaking her for Feinstein who looked like a literal frankenstein monster kept alive on drugs and puppet strings.
Well, the unsatisfying answer is shared class interests, but i’m putting forward the proposal that they are a manifestation of America’s sins given corporeal form.
The true icon of sin, the real planet-destroying paperclip maximizer all along:
We just need to lie enough, that’ll work
-Democrats
This monster is less human than a Stepford Wife.
“Don’t tell me you’ve all forgotten about the pier!”But for real, are they trying to pull the “Hamas is evilly controlling the Palestinians! So, really, helping Israel destroy ‘Hamas’ is pro-Palestinian if you think about it”?
well given the pier was used to commit perfidy they may prefer people forget it.
They will greet us as liberators!
Where was this? I find it interesting they are even asking politicians questions about Middle-Eastern Americans right now in the mainstream media. I thought they were just trying to ignore their existence as much as possible while plugging their ears.
This is exactly what people were talking about by threatening their vote, they are now being heard, and are getting harder to ignore.
