The Anti-Fascist Action were backed by the German Communist Party.

The Iron Front were set up by SocDems as an anti-communist alternative to AntiFa.

Because as we all know, the only way to fight disease is to oppose medicine and promote a homeopathic snake oil instead.

    • Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      11·
      9 hours ago

      funnily enough i actually had the thought that they might be trots earlier today and went looking for evidence of such

      didn’t find anything explicit but i didn’t get too deep into looking

  • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    12·
    11 hours ago

    Idk I’ve been reliably informed by a fairly inteligent anarchist I know that the Three Arrows was used before the SocDems got ahold of it, and that the third arrow originally meant capitalism not communism. He had like, evidence but I didnt save it. So personally I dont have the problem with the three arrows most people have. Its not like most people that use it are using it with that intention anyway.

  • anarcho_blinkenist [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    47·
    14 hours ago

    excuse me its not against communism its just against redfash tankies

    the social democrats dident want authoritarianism so made agroup to fight the fascists by *opens history book* teaming up with the fascists to kill the communists, then all getting shot by the fascists once the way was cleared for them

    so there, tankie smuglord

    • SSJMarx@lemm.eeEnglish
      34·
      13 hours ago

      opens history book

      Based on my Lemmy interactions every time this comes up outside of hexbear, grad, or .ml, nobody who argues against the communists has ever or will ever do this. Half of them are convinced that the Commies teamed up with the Nazis to kill the Social Democrats!

        • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          10·
          8 hours ago

          and when you point out how bad wikipedia is they’ll act like you kicked their dog vivian-shrug it’s kinda funny, if not for the fact that they refuse to onboard any new information

          • anarcho_blinkenist [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
            21·
            12 hours ago

            [5] The Black Book of Communism
            [6] Conquest Orwellchipelago by MI6 Fictionitsyn
            [7] pgs.14, 88 from The Diary of Lt. General Emigre Killchildovich, compiled by Assistant Intelligence Chief of NATO Adolf Franz-Gehlen von Whitewash

            • SSJMarx@lemm.eeEnglish
              22·
              12 hours ago

              It’s this when you’re lucky. I can’t remember the exact page but I distinctly remember being linked a wikipedia article in one argument with a .worlder where every single section of the article had a little banner saying “this section has no citations”.

              Oh and lets not forget how they’ll sometimes go for multiple citations, but it’s all just related wikipedia articles. So you’ll get linked to “Antisemitism in the Soviet Union,” “Joseph Stalin and Antisemitism,” “History of Jews in the Soviet Union,” “Antisemitism in Russia,” and “Antisemitism in Soviet Mathematics” all as evidence that the Soviets were just as bad as the Nazis.

  • newacctidk [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    21·
    13 hours ago

    Alternative to Roterfront, but yes.

    As a reaction to the Harzburg Front and the »March of 100,000«, the Reichsbanner, SPD, General German Trade Union Confederation (ADGB), General Employees’ Association (Afa-Bund) and workers’ gymnastics and Sportbund (ATSB) formed the “Iron Front” on December 16, 1931. Her symbol was three from top right to arrows pointing to the lower left, each shattering a crown, a swastika, and a hammer and sickle. The Iron Front therefore also saw itself as an anti-communist organization.

    There was no actual membership. Rather, the Iron Front represented an attempt to to initiate a movement of pro-republic forces. Today they would probably be more democratic as a concerted action identify organizations against extremism

    During the first months of its existence, the Iron Front was popularized through large-scale events. There were so-called “preparation weeks” in which activists could write their names in “iron books.” Trade unionists formed “hammer groups” in order to be able to act militantly in an emergency. In their propaganda appeared the Iron Front as a decisive force to protect the republic. In fact, their activities focused on publicly effective self-portrayals.

    Meanwhile, the Nazis were gaining ground. Hitler wanted on April 10, 1932 in the election to the Reich President against Paul von Hindenburg and Ernst Thälmann, but he was still stateless. The German The Braunschweig government procured him citizenship by appointing him to the government council on February 25, 1932 in Berlin - a post that Hitler, incidentally, never took up. However, the election to the Reich President was decided by supported by the SPD, German nationalist Paul von Hindenburg for himself.

    The Iron Front predates Antifa, and Antifa was very much Communist led, it was an attempt at a united front. The SPD leadership and union leadership REFUSED to join. We cannot know for sure the membership makeup because Antifa insisted upon no membership cards, as this was practical self-defense, NOT a political militia or armed wing. Which probably saved a lot of lives in the short term.

    As an example, Thälmann’s reply to whether the anti-fascist Action about a “communist party shop” is reproduced: “It is a non-partisan collecting tank for all workers who are willing to fight ruthlessly against fascism. It is not an organization, but a mass movement. She is the stream into which all the fighting forces flow which is really the struggle, the mass attack against the current government, which is the immediate erection of the fascist To operate a dictatorship, to want to implement it. The leadership of the special unity committees in the factories, in the streets the stamp points etc., must of course be in the hands of the workers themselves willing to fight. ”

    Iron Front was utterly useless

    During the first months of its existence, the Iron Front was popularized through large-scale events. There were so-called “preparation weeks” in which activists could write their names in “iron books.” Trade unionists formed “hammer groups” in order to be able to act militantly in an emergency. In their propaganda appeared the Iron Front as a decisive force to protect the republic. In fact, their activities focused on publicly effective self-portrayals.

    • mraow_ [fae/faer]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      3 hours ago

      I cannot think of any anarchist symbol with three arrows but I can think of the Chaos Star, sometimes also known as the Chaos Wheel, Chaos Arrows or Eight of Wands. It symbolises order, weirdly enough.