In case yall haven’t heard the news yet.

  • GlueBear [they/them]
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    12 days ago

    Don’t they bomb European countries too? Like if their defeat is imminent then they’ll kill euros for letting their settlers state fail?

    • Justice
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      I believe that’s what Hersh outlined a long time ago.

      When he wrote that shit and pretty much up until about 10 months I would’ve said “Ok, bro. Calm down.”

      The last ~35 years of pure Zionist brainrot have resulted in a situation where I’m like "Yeah… I sure hope the dumbasses in NATO and USSTRATCOM already knew about or took seriously his claims and have a “reverse” Samson option ready to trigger… well, right about now to be honest.

      Of course the actual reversal would have some sort of forced denuclearization of Israel right around the time Ukraine was denuclearized. I’m kind of a believer in “If anyone has nukes, everyone should have nukes” with a caveat of “but ideally no one should have nukes.” The US, Russia, EU nations, UK, China, DPRK, etc. are obviously all never willingly self-denuclearizing, so, back to step 1.

      Anyway, if the US military has any juice left in the lemon of “intelligence” unsqueezed, it will already be preparing preliminary strikes inside Israel to fully destroy their nuclear capabilities. If there’s any country on earth that can pull that off it’s basically the US due to full collaboration between the state departments and militaries. China and some EU combined forces might be able to do so purely militarily, but I’d assume only the US has the exact locations and numbers of every single nuclear weapon in the Israeli arsenal for the purposes of crippling all of their launch capabilities.

      But with Joe RottingCorpse Biden in charge… literally none of that will be happening. This is like the one time the US military should be using all of its intelligence and might to do a shitload of simultaneous strikes all over Israel to cripple its nuclear capabilities… and it will absolutely never happen.

      Also, why wouldn’t dumbass Bibi just sling a couple warheads at like DC or NYC while he’s doing the thing? Is the USAF so confident it can take out incoming ICBMs in real time? (It almost assuredly cannot. If they had that tech they’d be gloating over towards China and Russia daily).

      This situation has been resolved before in South Africa. It’s just crazy to think how fucking insane the Israelis are and how apparently nonchalant or unmoved the US/EU is towards their blatant aggression far beyond all boundaries. These dumbass boomers and/or ideological Nazis are so fucking hellbent on having their third reich in the Middle East that they would rather die than ever get rid of the current Hitler.

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        Bibi wouldn’t do that because the US supplies the weapons for his war. Even he is probably not dumb enough to bite the hand that feeds him. The more likely scenario is that the US supports Israel using nukes and vetoes any actions the UN takes against them. “Israel has a right to defend itself” and all that nonsense.

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          The Samson option is a “last ditch effort” thing where if the Israeli military thinks defeat is imminent and inevitable they’ll basically commit mass murder/suicide. And part of it was (allegedly) aiming nukes at Europe. If they’re willing to hit Europe, there’s no barriers left. And if Israel does launch a nuke, there’s a significantly real chance that Israel itself will be totally leveled by… who knows at that point.

          Not to mention China, Russia… the entire world… is gonna be “wtfing” to the highest degree possible. Like if there’s fucking ICBMs flying, well, this is literally the plot of a ton of end of the world books/movies for a reason. Shit happens, “accidents” happen, and it’s part of why every country on earth (minus the nukes on Japan when only the US had them, ICBMs hadn’t become a thing, and the whole Mutually Assured Destruction concept hadn’t come around yet) has been very “No nukes! Not for any purpose!” all throughout until today. Like everyone understands it’s doomsday shit. Not to do that thing people do where everything is the end of the world, but nukes launching basically in any context deserves the realistic acknowledgment.

          And of course this is all framed from a self-preservation standpoint because I want to emphasize how out of touch, insane, frankly stupid and evil the top leaders are in Israel and US (EU too- don’t hear them condemning all this shit).

          My point is Bibi won’t be needing more weapons at the point he chooses to launch nukes. It means he already lost, he’s just throwing wildly, knowing he is surely doomed and probably his entire nation and he would be trying to take us all with him. Or at least Iran.

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            11 days ago

            … it’s part of why every country on earth […] has been very “No nukes! Not for any purpose!” all throughout until today. Like everyone understands it’s doomsday shit.

            Everyone except the arch-ghoul Kissinger and his merry band of war criminals. IIRC his initial political rise had to do with the book he wrote about “tactical” nukes. His thesis was something like, “ok, maybe big nukes are bad, but we can use little ones. As a treat”.