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why do people go on ideological debate between ukraine and russia even the popular leftist circles, saying that both sides bad?
the main reason people don’t acknowledge is a geopolitical one and is definitively NATO eastward expansion. every country requires a buffer zone for historical reasons. china, india, russia and of course usa, if you encroach on that countries take drastic measures like starting a war or in this case the so called unprovoked war. (the fact that they mention unprovoked means that its provoked, but that’s another discussion)
It’s ultra rhetoric that reduces “imperialism” to whenever a country invades another (they don’t understand what imperialism is). Russia is definitively not apart of the imperial core, is not imposing an imperial mode of production, and is merely acting/reacting nationalistically.
A lot of the myth of Russian “imperialism” is due to Dugin, who is a complete idiot and nobody in the Russian gov’t cares about him. Russia doesn’t have the population nor military capacity to become global hegemons, its simply not going to happen.
are you sure there are no imperial tendencies at all in the Russian establishment? This seems unlikely, even if one does not read present policy as imperialist
Putin had obvious legal justification for the humanitarian intervention. Putin had been using peace negotiation to stop the massacre of ethnic minority in Ukraine under the unelected dictator from the Euromaiden coup and later under Zelensky’s rule for 8 years. Putin has the legal right for military intervention and the result of the military intervention achieved the stated goal of protection of ethnic minority and of rebelling states contrary to the claim by Pax Americana about takeover of Ukraine.