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      And of course “Kyiv”. That name is first registered in the late XIX century and while there is tons of spelling of the name from earlier documents, nearly all are sounding much more like variations of “Kiev” or “Kiov”.

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          That’s questioned. Old East Slavic chronicles had it as Києвъ, Къıєвъ, or Кїєвъ. First recorded version is Hebrew Qiyyōḇ, Greek Κιοάβα, Kioava, Κίοβα, Kiova and Arabic Kūyāba. The etymology from name Kyi is bizarre because in both original sources that name was written as кии. The one from “stick” might be correct but is equally wrong for Kyiv because in the same modern Ukrainian that had the city named Kyiv stick is again кии (btw the stick etymology is supported by Polish language where the name is Kijów, meaning literally “city of sticks” which check outs historically because we know it had very impressive wooden walls).

          All the arguments for “Kyiv” sounds like modern folk pseudoetymology (which is not bad per se) but forced for political reasons back into the past. Especially striking that they claim the city was always “Kyiv” but the state it was the capital of is still called as always was “Kievan Rus”!

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          Not really. Magyar is the name in Hungarian coming from the leading tribe of the confederation migrating west. Hungary and all its variations (Ungar in German or even Węgry in Polish) comes from the Byzantine name Oungroi which most likely comes from the Turkic “Onggur” - literally “Ten Arrows” and metaphoric “People”. “H” was added by the Latin scholars as the connotation with Huns because Hungarian migration scared a lot of people in central Europe shitless - which was btw later accepted as folk pseudoetymology by the Hungarians themselves since they liked being compared to the Huns despite no provable link between those two people except both being horse nomads.

          So it’s not really comparable to the anachronistic attempt at revise Kiev etymology, Hungary/Magyar are rather two parallel etymologies in different languages.

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      Interesting to see that they decided to leave parts of Scandinavia as “native”/“uncolonized”. I guess there wasn’t much of a state structure, but you never know.

      Wonder if it will be some kind of mission tree aim to colonize the north for Scandinavian and Russian tags or what is going to happen there.

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      Places of Note:
      • qin-shi-huangdi-fireball Wei.

      • qin-shi-huangdi-fireball Han.

      • spray-bottle Uff. Uff. Uff.

      • amerikkka South Carolina

      • chicken-bop Hen.

      • dudes-rock Böb, Mark, Don, and Man (dudes rock)

      • baseball-crank The New York Metz

      • peekaboo Nam

      All the other three letter abbreviated states are neopronouns that just dropped.

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          We can not allow the perfidious frogs a chance at expanding beyond Alsace–Lorraine and attempting to recreate Charlemagne’s conquest of the untamed wilderness that is the German city-stateletts!

          I propose the formation of a Volksrepublik Deutschland to counterbalance the Deutsche Demokratische Republik and the Räterepublik Baiern.

          Edit: Damn “People’s Republic of Germany” really doesn’t sound right because of the goddamn nazis.

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            We can give everything along the Rhine back to the Romans as a buffer state.

            The senate will consist of one representative of every state that claims to be the legacy of Rome.

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                Well we’ve had Rome, Eastern Rome, Holy Rome, Imperial Russia, Imperial Spain, fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Greece, all of which claimed to be the continuation of Rome, so I think this would be the 8th or 9th Rome.

                The senate would start with an American, a brit, a greek, a turk, a bulgarian, a frenchman, and everyone else who just claimed to carry the legacy of Rome.

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                  It sounds like a conference where everyone would argue about who invented baklava or kebabs or some shit that would set the world alight in nuclear hellfire

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                  Well we’ve had Rome, Eastern Rome, Holy Rome, Imperial Russia, Imperial Spain, fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Greece, all of which claimed to be the continuation of Rome, so I think this would be the 8th or 9th Rome.

                  Don’t forget Ottoman Turkey, one of titles of Sultan since Mehmed II was Kayser-i Rum which literally mean “Roman Emperor” and this was even acknowledged by some treaties with Italians and even German Emperors.

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    Meanwhile, SE Asia will have like 3 nations and a dozen provinces if they’re lucky.