Keys have existed for over 4000 years.
Stop trying to reinvent shit that isn’t broken.
This is the dumbest thing. I had to rescue a Tesla owner a couple of weeks ago, she was stuck in our lobby because her phone battery died and she couldn’t open her car so I went back to get her a charger
Can’t believe that dumbass walks around without the credit card sized key.
Yeah I couldn’t believe how insane it was. Her charger was, of course, inside the car….
At least she was nice and brought me cookies the next time I saw her :3
Still love the car!
Imagine being stranded because your phone died lol
Imagine being stranded because the cellular network signal is too weak
It’s a mall crawler that they pretend people will take offroading, too
At least with iphones if you have no signal and your phone is dead, you will still be able to use it to get into the car.
Physical keys, physical buttons, physical currency
I will never budge on any of this
Physical media storage, too. Fuck the cloud.
Pushing play on the touchscreen 50 times bc it won’t register
Now imagine doing this while driving 80 miles in a modern pick up truck.
touchscreens while driving? they have played us for absolute fools
Me with a touchscreen phone, no cash, and since it was mentioned, and keeping everything in cloud storage (mostly because I dont have room for it all on my harddrive, but also so I can access it on multiple devices).
Not that you’re not right. The touchscreen is only because thats the only thing being made anymore anyway lol. I find cash inconvenient but you’re completely correct about it ideologically speaking.
oh they will make you
buys multi ton metal heap
yeah sure the key fob is wasteful
Return to physical keys and mandate that they cost 20$
You ever lost a key and had to buy a new one? It’s like 150$ for no reason!
Go to a key copier and make one as a backup I’ve never paid more than like $20 for a key literally ever.
Modern cars have keyless entry and push start so you can’t simply make a backup key at a locksmith. They can duplicate the emergency key that serves as a backup for the door but it won’t start the car because you need the code programmed in.
Even modern-ish cars that have a transponder key which looks like a “normal key” can cost over $100 to replicate, even without a key fob.
Damn we are living in two completely different worlds then. I completely forgot that cars are like that now. My truck is a 2002 Toyota tundra.
If something needs an app to operate I don’t buy it ever. Simple as. Stop trying to shove your malware addled garbage onto me.
Yeah my phone is certainly never dead when I’m away from my home. These people are clowns.
Having the fob in my pocket and just getting in the car and turning it on is way more convenient than getting out my phone, waiting for Face ID to fail twice, and then entering my passcode.
i drive a car with a key. like the kind you insert into the ignition and turn. i was giving somebody from work a ride the other day, and they were like, “wow, i haven’t seen one of those in a while!”
i know i’ll probably have to do the FOB thing eventually (because the future is when every simple mechanism requires a battery), but i would refuse anything that needed my phone. yes, let’s make the cell phone, the device that has 10-20X’d in price in 15 years and become the near-universal tether to work, identity, and payment become the single point of failure that renders one completely fucked if broken, stolen, lost, or drained.
people who bazinga over shit like this are people who confuse being dependent on a technology with understanding a technology.
Boomer question, but how do you drop your car off for an oil change or whatever without a key?
at the certified and approved service desk with the dealership, where you can pay top dollar for parts and labor and you have no recourse to their diagnostics.
or, as those of us olds with now-classic cars refer to it as, the stealership. remember: you didn’t buy a vehicle. you bought the ability to drive it sometimes and the right to funnel more money to the manufacturer/broker when it fucks up.
Here’s the valet key, a second phone
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As someone with a Tesla. There are “keys” they are just cards, think rfid cards for those who know, if you don’t just think credit card size.
I can’t be the only person who doesn’t have a constant, uninterrupted cell signal and constant access to a wall outlet. The idea that everything for everyone can always be done on a cell phone always seems like unexamined, tech utopianism.
“Your OS is not compatible with this application, update your phone’s OS”
clicks system update in Settings
“Your phone is no longer supported and cannot upgrade to the current version of this operating system.”
Keyfobs have physical buttons that provide tactile feedback that a phone can never offer
That in and of itself makes the keyfob superior
To be fair, nothing in a Tesla has physical feedback. It’s all touchscreens and fly by wire
And it’s objectively a worse experience for it.
If your tesla goes up in flames you got the physical feedback regarding your discission of buying a tesla.
That a phone can never offer… anymore.
Hello sir did you remember to pay your $200 per year ignition access fee
Don’t tempt them!
trust me, they’re already working on it. they already made airbags that require a subscription
Remote start is another one. A feature that was standard ten years ago is now pay to play