I’m struggling with the thought of potentially bringing another person into this world in the future.
Things are so bad already and on track to get worse. Why, with this knowledge, should I have a child? Why should any of us?
I’m not asking this to be some overpopulation crazy eco-fascist but I just genuinely am wondering (and have an open mind) about what the actual implications are of bringing a child into the world right now.
By 2050 it’s pretty broadly agreed upon that things will be HORRIBLE climate wise and even worse if capitalism isn’t defeated soon. 2022 + 80 year potential life span is 2102. What will it be like then?
Why not adopt one of the billions of climate refugees instead?
I don’t know, maybe I’m way out of touch but I just can’t think of a reason to damn a child to a life like that.
Yes, and every communist able to do so should have kids because you have the opportunity to educate your children so that they question the world around them. We should reproduce our ideas through all means, because our fight is for the future of humanity, so having/adopting children is not only ethical, but in my view a duty as a communist
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Yes, you’re right, I think it may be an overstatement to call it a duty, but having children, through any means, either birth or adoption, is how communities reproduce themselves historically. And yes, having children serves capital, so does buying commodities, yet it is how you reproduce your life. There’s no escape from this. But if we boycott ourselves from participating in raising children, the conservative white supremacist family will continue to do so anyways.
It is only a form of gendered violence if it’s implied that it’s a task for a particular gender. I didn’t imply that at all. Since we’re both communists, you’d think it was an implicit agreement that we should fight against gender oppression? If I say that raising children is a communist duty (however wrong that statement might be), you can’t possibly expect that I was referring to women raising children in this day and age, seriously
The mistake was on me, I used “having children”, when I should have used “raising children”, as it would be more explicit that I am not speaking specifically of birth, I even mentioned adoption at the end of my comment.
So, in your view, we should not have, raise, adopt children because we would be “reinforcing the very family structures that serve the capitalist class”? No one is obliged to conform to those structures, and also, one can have a family beyond the capitalist nuclear family. This would be a “practical criticism” of the traditional nuclear family.
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having kids just for the communism I feel is a bit of a meh Idea
First you imply that children would be raised just for that, but I mentioned that in the context of the struggle for a better world, of course we shouldn’t raise children based on our own projections, and should always treat our children first and foremost as human beings.
Second, you imply in “just for the communism” that the struggle for a world without exploitation is a small and irrelevant thing. Again, this is a struggle for the future of humanity, if you will have children, why not arm them with the tools to accomplish that? The struggle against exploitation is an inter-generational one, the tasks we are doing now will be the basis for future struggle
I see the merit in someone trying to impart their knowledge to children, unfortunately children sometimes rebel just to be opposite their parents. I will also say that just being a major time sink alone brings to question if a comrade’s time would be put to better revolutionary use in other avenues, definitely a case by case basis IMO