Arguing with leftists on reddit is weird. They hate us tankies for loving AES, they hate all successful socialist states. Why do they deny their ideologies (anarchism, demsoc) failed miserably? Ok, maybe we the Soviets had to leave Makhnovites alone. Would they stand up to Western imperialists? No way

Demsoc? The moment socialists win elections, your “democracy” disappears faster than I drink my vodka. Allende was violently toppled by Augusto.

  • HaSch
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    7 months ago

    Hot take: Even at its height at the end of the 1970s, the Warsaw Pact never stood the shadow of a chance against global capital, neither in terms of weaponry, nor economy, nor geographical extent. Stalin’s legacy was snuffed out long before it could create the conditions necessary for the Eastern Bloc to survive through the brunt of imperialism. The US only panicked about the Soviets because they were pint-sized when all of its previous adversaries were microscopic, and the fact that the USSR survived 35 years after destalinisation can only be credited to the remaining embers of Marxism-Leninism, the brilliancy of its workers, and the uncurable malaise of its enemy.

    If even the Red Army could defeat your splinter ideology, how do you see it faring against global capital?

    • deathtoreddit
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      Even at its height at the end of the 1970s, the Warsaw Pact never stood the shadow of a chance against global capital

      More like invading western capital…

      I think otherwise, it could stand its own… yk

  • QueerCommie
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    7 months ago

    Why the hell does anyone want to be socialist who also thinks that socialism has always failed?!

    • DamarcusArt
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      7 months ago

      Because those people just didn’t know how to do it the white right way.

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    allende was toppled by the us*

    the crucial thing he was missing was imperialism