The barrage yesterday morning killed 11 civilians for 200*** missiles.
And I’m just putting it down there without further comment, because in our post-irony worlds, I have no idea if this is a good result or not. Literally no idea. We’re so used to Americans killing everyone (even double-tapping) that I cannot lean one way or the other.
Edit: oh, this the same barrage (but I think they’re repeating it today). I thought this was a new post haha
Of course it’s not a good result if they were non-Nazi civilians (which they presumably are, unless they’re unable to enter the army because of old age or some other reason). I hope Russia at least destroyed some valuable infrastructure used by the military with those missiles
I misspoke, Russia actually launched 200 missiles.
The question is, is it possible to barrage 200 missiles and not have civilian deaths? In my opinion the “clean war” is a myth, civilians are inevitably casualties of war. We can take the US approach which is to target them specifically, or (what seems to be) the Russian approach of avoiding them as much as possible.
What I’m interested in to answer this question is, is this a “good” result compared to other missile strikes, and did Russia do everything they could to minimise casualties? And did Ukraine do it too? For example during the siege of Kiev, we know from people on the ground that Russia announced strikes well in advance, but Ukraine only started the sirens 30 minutes, sometimes 20, before the missile hit – which was barely enough time to get to a safe place.
That’s why I’m completely unable to say if 11 deaths is an “acceptable” result or not. If this was the US, there would be more than 100 deaths. And perhaps if it was someone else, maybe there would have been 0 deaths.
Note also they might not all be civilians, perhaps what I read was simple “11 people died” without explaining if they were military or not, and I chalked that up to civilians. This was also likely a preliminary
The barrage yesterday morning killed 11 civilians for 200*** missiles.
And I’m just putting it down there without further comment, because in our post-irony worlds, I have no idea if this is a good result or not. Literally no idea. We’re so used to Americans killing everyone (even double-tapping) that I cannot lean one way or the other.
Edit: oh, this the same barrage (but I think they’re repeating it today). I thought this was a new post haha
Of course it’s not a good result if they were non-Nazi civilians (which they presumably are, unless they’re unable to enter the army because of old age or some other reason). I hope Russia at least destroyed some valuable infrastructure used by the military with those missiles
I misspoke, Russia actually launched 200 missiles.
The question is, is it possible to barrage 200 missiles and not have civilian deaths? In my opinion the “clean war” is a myth, civilians are inevitably casualties of war. We can take the US approach which is to target them specifically, or (what seems to be) the Russian approach of avoiding them as much as possible.
What I’m interested in to answer this question is, is this a “good” result compared to other missile strikes, and did Russia do everything they could to minimise casualties? And did Ukraine do it too? For example during the siege of Kiev, we know from people on the ground that Russia announced strikes well in advance, but Ukraine only started the sirens 30 minutes, sometimes 20, before the missile hit – which was barely enough time to get to a safe place.
That’s why I’m completely unable to say if 11 deaths is an “acceptable” result or not. If this was the US, there would be more than 100 deaths. And perhaps if it was someone else, maybe there would have been 0 deaths.
Note also they might not all be civilians, perhaps what I read was simple “11 people died” without explaining if they were military or not, and I chalked that up to civilians. This was also likely a preliminary
Assuming that Russia did announce the strikes in advance, I would be extremely surprised if Ukraine prioritized the evacuation of civilians