• Nevoic@lemm.ee
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    According to factcheck.org, Putin’s statements about neonazis are baseless propaganda. https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/the-facts-on-de-nazifying-ukraine/

    According to mediabiasfactcheck, factcheck is incredibly high in factual reporting and very limited in its bias https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/factcheck/

    Are both mediabiasfactcheck.com and factcheck.org liberal propaganda? I’ve always found these sources to be incredibly reliable whenever I go through the effort of double checking them. What sources do you prefer over them if you think these are incredibly flawed, biased sources? Can you give links to the “extremely well documented” bombing of children by neonazis in Ukraine?

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      Must have imagined all those SS runes, Black Suns, Swastikas and all those OUN flags then. And misheard ukraine using the OUN slogan in a official capacity.

      Or your factcheckers are full of shit.

      As for evidenc eof shelling of civilians, just have a look at this sub.

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        There are a depressing amount of posts documenting this. Like damn. You can’t scroll without seeing “Ukrainian shell civilians, x were killed”.

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      4 months ago

      Quoting an older post I wrote.

      Media Fact Checker says RFA hasn’t reported any fake news in 5 years.
      https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/radio-free-asia/

      RFA published this https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/squidgame-11232021180155.html
      Which is comprehensively refuted by this https://web.archive.org/web/20231216224202/http://www.arirangmeari.com/newsView/17808
      RFA published this https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/philanthropist-11212018131511.html
      Which is comprehensively refuted by this https://youtu.be/scScu7rcwnI

      RFAs reporting is so painfully fictitious that Mediafactchecker simply can’t have fooled. Therefore, Mediafactchecker must be deliberately lying. Why would they do this?

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      Are both mediabiasfactcheck.com and factcheck.org liberal propaganda?

      Correct. They are funded and staffed by people who uphold the US propaganda; there are literal thousands of pictures of Ukrainian Nazis, having Nazi imagery either tattooed on their person or a military patch. There were articles written before 2022 that describe Ukraine having a neo-nazi problem.

      What sources do you prefer over them if you think these are incredibly flawed, biased sources?

      Nothing is stopping you from reading news from Russia themselves or other non-Western sources. Telesur, CGTN, Global Times are a few.

      Can you give links to the “extremely well documented” bombing of children by neonazis in Ukraine?

      Quite honestly this entire instance has tons of examples, you can search through it yourself.

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      Are we talking about the same mediabiasfactcheck that rates Radio Free Asia as highly factual left-center source?

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      You could read the UN report. Or you can search the publications like the guardian or the BBC and other reputable sources for ‘Ukraine’, ‘Neonazis’, and ‘Azov’ but it have to put the dates in for 2014–2021 and you’ll still have to scroll to find the sources. Google will be practically useless. Duckduckgo might be slightly better. The imperialists did a decent job of scrubbing the internet but it’s all still out there, often on the same websites and by the same publications that have been whitewashing Ukraine since a couple of months before Russia invaded.